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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Hispanic birth rates are higher than black birth rates in the United States. Black birth rates are 2.1 kids per black woman which is basically replacement rate, while Hispanic birth rates are 2.4 births per Hispanic woman. If you extrapolate that over 50 years it will indeed lead to a significant difference in population growth rates.

    You then have to look at how many young childbearing age Hispanic women their are versus other demographics.

    Explaining Why Minority Births Now Outnumber White Births | Pew Social & Demographic Trends

    That said, I would imagine that over the coming decades both groups birth rates will fall in line with whites and asians and their population growth rate will slow.
    His beliefs are so bigoted that he can't even recognize the difference between actual #'s like 2.1 and 2.4
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    I actually run with a pretty diverse group of friends.

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    wow, the one is the yellow sunglasses looks very similar to one of my brothers. Weird!
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    You're getting awfully defensive here.
    No, I just find your attempts to equivocate two things that are not alike and refusal to justify the comparison annoying

    I must have struck a nerve. Settle down, I didn't say conservatives were racist, and I didn't say you were either. Why are you so defensive of the people that are racists.
    Yes, I find stupid arguments annoying. Second, you're equivocating this discussion to people taking issue over miscegenation. If that isn't calling people racist I don't know what is.


    I doubt that Russians singing the national anthem in Russian would be anything other than a joke, besides which nobody sang the national anthem in this ad.
    Why would you think that? Because your assumption is that people are taking offense because they are racist

    Think of it this way - if the Coke ad had been a bunch of blonde chicks singing "God Bless America" you'd be praising their patriotism. But one line was in Spanish and you're having a freaking conniption about the "percieved message" and going really overboard to defend yourself against accusations of racism that weren't made.
    1) so you're not calling me racist, only implying that I have an issue with the ethnicity of the people in the ad?

    2) I made clear from the beginning that I thought the reaction to the add was silly. What I am doing is discussing immigration policy

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Massachusetts is an illegal immigrant sanctuary state.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Latinos have a higher birth rate than blacks. Almost double

    Number of Live Births by Race/Ethnicity | The Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation
    Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]-sdt-fertility-rate-race-png

    It's hardly like they're popping out 5 or 6 children per woman like the Indians were doing thirty years ago here.



    A population simply does not double in less than 50 years on a 2 children per woman fertility rate alone. That is due to the contribution made by immigration.

    Latinos have been in the US since before it was the US. Ever hear of Texas? Who do you think lived there before white people moved there?


    Mexicans are a native cultural group. They have lived in territory that is now the US longer than white people have.
    Which is why we conquered those areas, and displaced their local cultures, replacing them with our own.

    The simple fact of the matter is that Latino immigrants are not "culturally American" and never have been. They are alien.

    Well, it's not verifiable for someone who has never been to NYC where the are large Latino communities where most speak English.

    No they didn't
    I don't speak Italian or German even as a second language, and I don't fly an Irish flag outside of my home.

    Try again.

    Ahh, the old "but those people are different". That's not too bigoted.
    Again, it's our country. It's our culture.

    If they're not willing to "play ball," they frankly have no business being here.

    Every other immigrant group past and present seemed to understand this basic fact well enough. What makes Latinos so special that they need to be deliberately coddled so that they don't "lose their culture?"

    I'm sorry, but I really couldn't care less about their culture. When they move to a new country, it should be expected to change.

    Yeah, "Some of my best friends are immigrants"
    Believe what you want.

    I've got pics, so it most assured did happen.
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Massachusetts is an illegal immigrant sanctuary state.
    So what?

    They still have a below avg of Latinos.
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    1) so you're not calling me racist, only implying that I have an issue with the ethnicity of the people in the ad?
    Tell you what. Post a quote where I said you were a racist. Otherwise, you're just blowing hot air.

    2) I made clear from the beginning that I thought the reaction to the add was silly. What I am doing is discussing immigration policy
    So you're vociferously arguing with me because I implied that people who have that reaction are racist. Since that's not you, what's your problem?


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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    wow, the one is the yellow sunglasses looks very similar to one of my brothers. Weird!
    they all must look the same to you too!

    PS Where was the holi celebration?

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    They are learning English.
    Even if they the older generation are not learning alot of English, ALL of their children are. Take for instance my next door neighbors who came over a couple years ago and can communicate ok in English, are very into the "latino culture", and yet their children are the exact opposite. The kids watch American tv, speak mostly English, and are for the most part are assimilated. When their parents dress up in cowboy boots and hats and start singing Vicente Fernandez at the top of their lungs during cookouts, they look at them like they are aliens (haha)

    I find that to be typical of most of my family, other neighbors, and friends as well. They can come back to us with all the surveys they want, that's just what I see in the actual community.
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    So what?

    They still have a below avg of Latinos.
    My point is that in Massachusetts, there is a large segment of the population in Massachusetts that wants to coddle illegal immigrants. This shows in their economic situations, their level of employment (or lack of), and non-English speakers are very common here in Massachusetts.

    What's your point?

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