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Thread: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    wouldn't a better question be why you are equating discussion of the cheerio add and this one? Do you think discussion of immigration policy and miscegenation are on an equal footing, or are you trying to equivocate between things to make a cheap accusation of racism?



    So you're asking why people would discuss something that deviates from the norm compared to something that doesn't? Also, do you think people wouldn't discuss a similar add that had russians singing the national anthem in their native tongue, or was the default assumption of racism too easy?
    You're getting awfully defensive here. I must have struck a nerve. Settle down, I didn't say conservatives were racist, and I didn't say you were either. Why are you so defensive of the people that are racists.

    I doubt that Russians singing the national anthem in Russian would be anything other than a joke, besides which nobody sang the national anthem in this ad. Think of it this way - if the Coke ad had been a bunch of blonde chicks singing "God Bless America" you'd be praising their patriotism. But one line was in Spanish and you're having a freaking conniption about the "percieved message" and going really overboard to defend yourself against accusations of racism that weren't made.


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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Yes, you have a friend who is an immigrant. Gee, I never heard that one before
    I actually run with a pretty diverse group of friends.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    No, I don't care about your arguments, because they're laughably wrong.

    It doesn't mean I don't care about the issue, or will fail to point the above fact out to you as many times as is necessary to drive the point home.
    Yes, you don't care. That's why you keep responding

    Again, Sangha, this is simple mathematics here. If the Latino community is roughly the same size as the Black community, and has roughly the same birthrate, why is one expected to double in size over the course of the next fifty years, where the other remains virtually stagnant.

    If they're not popping out of vaginas, where are all those extra people coming from?

    Latinos have a higher birth rate than blacks. Almost double

    Number of Live Births by Race/Ethnicity | The Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation


    Derp! Prove it.
    Latinos have been in the US since before it was the US. Ever hear of Texas? Who do you think lived there before white people moved there?

    "Native cultural groups," Sangha. Do try to keep up.

    It doesn't matter where you were born, if you are not making an attempt to integrate yourself into the local culture.
    Mexicans are a native cultural group. They have lived in territory that is now the US longer than white people have.


    Unverifiable personal anecdote for the win!
    Well, it's not verifiable for someone who has never been to NYC where the are large Latino communities where most speak English.




    Everyone else did it. Hell! My ancestors did it.
    No they didn't


    What the Hell makes Latinos think they are so special?

    "In Rome do as the Romans do." If they want to be unique little flowers, they can do so somewhere else.
    Ahh, the old "but those people are different". That's not too bigoted.
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Well, why aren't they learning it then? If it was so important, you would think this wouldn't be an issue, yet it is. So common sense would tell me, that the sources posted suck and are not accurate. Besides, people lie on poll questions all the time.
    They are learning English.
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    They are learning English.
    Lol! Obviously you don't live in Massachusetts.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    1) why are you equating the two

    2) why do you keep ignoring that the perceived message of a a piece of media could be distinct to those performing in it?
    Why do you keep going on about the "percieved message" like there's this big conspiracy against you? It was designed to sell more Coke. Does that offend you for some reason?

    You're clearly incapable of dealing with the larger issue like an adult here.


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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    I actually run with a pretty diverse group of friends.
    Yeah, "Some of my best friends are immigrants"
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    No, I don't care about your arguments, because they're laughably wrong.

    It doesn't mean I don't care about the issue, or will fail to point the above fact out to you as many times as is necessary to drive the point home.



    Again, Sangha, this is simple mathematics here. If the Latino community is roughly the same size as the Black community, and has roughly the same birthrate, why is one expected to double in size over the course of the next fifty years, where the other remains virtually stagnant.

    If they're not popping out of vaginas, where are all those extra people coming from?


    Hispanic birth rates are higher than black birth rates in the United States. Black birth rates are 2.1 kids per black woman which is basically replacement rate, while Hispanic birth rates are 2.4 births per Hispanic woman. If you extrapolate that over 50 years it will indeed lead to a significant difference in population growth rates.

    You then have to look at how many young childbearing age Hispanic women there are versus other demographics.

    http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2012/...-white-births/

    That said, I would imagine that over the coming decades both groups birth rates will fall in line with whites and asians and their population growth rate will slow.
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Yeah, "Some of my best friends are immigrants"
    Maybe he does. Who are you to say? Do you hang out with Gathomas and his friends?

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Lol! Obviously you don't live in Massachusetts.
    Mass has a below avg % of Latinos.

    Population Distribution by Race/Ethnicity | The Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation
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