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Thread: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    Like I said my friends in Spain didn't know much English and they corresponded with the US gov in Spanish. The guy is a banker and was offered a job in NY. There were background checks, yes. This other couple I knew back in Zurich actually won the green card lottery for them and their two kids. Again, he was a banker, spoke decent English. She was a homemaker, atrocious English. He was Swiss and she was Russian. They spent a year in the US and decided to go back to Switzerland.
    How can he work as a banker in the US without knowing English? How would he communicate with his customers?

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    How can he work as a banker in the US without knowing English? How would he communicate with his customers?
    Private banker. Most of his customers are Latin American. His fluent Spanish and Portuguese came in very handy. There are a lot of private bankers here in Switzerland who don't speak any of the local languages. My ex was one of them.
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    Private banker. Most of his customers are Latin American. His fluent Spanish and Portuguese came in very handy. There are a lot of private bankers here in Switzerland who don't speak any of the local languages. My ex was one of them.
    How does he get along in the United States without being able to speak English? What about when he orders things at a restaurant. What about when the cashier rings him up and tells him how much? How does he know people aren't ripping him off or taking advantage of him?

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    actually refugee status is treated differently in a number of ways to general immigration, and I really fail to see why such a distinction shouldn't be made. Secondly, I fail to see why the conditions Rubio's parents came over under should disqualify an idea that seems to pass the smell test on it's own merits.
    Then again one could make the argument 'fleeing' cuba isn't even close to a true refugee and more like any other immigrant to this country... looking for a brighter future than can be found in the 'mother' country.

    As far as his idea goes, it doesn't pass the practical test as like I said what does 'some English' mean? A meaningless and standardless phrase designed to get those who don't stop and think about for a new york minute to nod along....

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Was she a swiss citizen at the time? Seems like Russians immigrate in enough numbers already that they wouldn't qualify for the lottery.
    No, she had the Swiss equivalent of a green card. Definitely Russian. The whole family won the green card. 3 Swiss, one Russian.
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    How does he get along in the United States without being able to speak English? What about when he orders things at a restaurant. What about when the cashier rings him up and tells him how much? How does he know people aren't ripping him off or taking advantage of him?
    Same way my ex got along in Switzerland before he started learning some German and then some French, I guess. How should I know. Haven't seen the guy since he moved to NYC.
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Sounds like a household with lots of drinking....


    all measured out very precisely.
    Not really. LOL They don't drink and they're vegan.
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Then again one could make the argument 'fleeing' cuba isn't even close to a true refugee and more like any other immigrant to this country... looking for a brighter future than can be found in the 'mother' country.
    Yes, if Cuba didn't have a long legacy of political prisoners and persecution, one could make that argument. But seeing as how Cuba has a long established association with such things it isn't really an argument worth making


    As far as his idea goes, it doesn't pass the practical test as like I said what does 'some English' mean?
    Wait, so your rejection is based on the fact that you are unaware, or he hasn't proposed, a specific definition of what he means by "some English"? All that take to address is defining what "some english means" and isn't a real burden to any such policy proposal.

    A meaningless and standardless phrase designed to get those who don't stop and think about for a new york minute to nod along....
    lol, you can't be serious?

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The non-hispanic portion of the US population is not the topic. But it's very revealing that your concern is focused so intently on white people becoming a minority
    No, the primary concern here is the failure of many Latino immigrants to assimilate into American society.

    That problem is only going to get worse as the native US population continues to decline in relation to the immigrant population.


    They are culturally american and they do assimilate.
    If they do not speak our language, obey our laws, adopt the fundamental aspects of our culture, or value their American identity over the national identity they possessed before immigration, they are NOT "American." They are foreigners.

    It is as simple as that.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Yes, if Cuba didn't have a long legacy of political prisoners and persecution, one could make that argument. But seeing as how Cuba has a long established association with such things it isn't really an argument worth making. Wait, so your rejection is based on the fact that you are unaware, or he hasn't proposed, a specific definition of what he means by "some English"? All that take to address is defining what "some english means" and isn't a real burden to any such policy proposal. lol, you can't be serious?
    Ahhh yes, the long established persecution of political prisoners in Cuba. EVERYONE who flees Cuba comes here claims that, everyone imprisoned claims it was political and not economic. Our country, in it's rather bizarre treatment of Cuba, how many times have we tried to kill Fidel?, seems intent on leaving logic at the wayside when it comes to Cuba as many immigrants from other 'long established persecution' countries are routinely denied entrance.

    Seems to me Rubio has had more than enough time to define a 'some English' standard, he has no real interest in doing such because the line was just to feed the koolaid sippers.

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