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Thread: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    For citizenship, yes. For legal residency, no. It really is that simple. There are millions of legal immigrants in the US right now who aren't required to learn English if they never intend to apply for citizenship. Many never do. They just keep renewing their green card.
    No they cannot. You cannot stay indefinitely on a green card. Those who do usually let their card expire and are here illegally.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    They are overwhelmed by the # of immigrants who sign up for the class even though, according to the xenophobes, they don't want to learn english

    But since you're so eager to protect those immigrants from the risks of not knowing english, I'm sure you support increased funding for the classes.
    Well no I do not. They can wait then. It is not my responsibility to coddle immigrants. They can pay for their classes or wait for their citizenship like everyone else.

    Why on earth anyone thinks it is our responsibility to teach people who want to become immigrants is beyond me. We do that as a favor to be nice.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    You're late to the party. We've already discussed exemptions, and they are because of disabilities, and even those people have to pass some tests which are in English.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    For citizenship, yes. For legal residency, no. It really is that simple. There are millions of legal immigrants in the US right now who aren't required to learn English if they never intend to apply for citizenship. Many never do. They just keep renewing their green card.
    There are only three ways to obtain a green card in the United States:

    1) Because you married a United States citizen and you are awaiting your permanent citizen status.
    2) For work purposes.
    3) For asylum.

    All of these cards have to be renewed every 2 years, and there is tons of paperwork (all in English) that needs to be filled out by the applicant.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I was referring to those who want to become citizens, and your link says that they still have to pass tests which are given in English.
    if you go back and read the discussion, it was obvious you first mentioned "immigrants", then specifically responded to a remark from me about how no test was required for a visa or residency with "I don't know what you're talking about. As far as I was aware, ***you don't get residency unless you pass a citizenship/naturalization test***. Link please?"

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    if you go back and read the discussion, it was obvious you first mentioned "immigrants", then specifically responded to a remark from me about how no test was required for a visa or residency with "I don't know what you're talking about. As far as I was aware, ***you don't get residency unless you pass a citizenship/naturalization test***. Link please?"
    They still have to pass tests and fill out paperwork. Green cards are not just given out, and again that doesn't change the requirements to become a permanent resident.

    The United States welcomes thousands of foreign workers in multiple occupations or employment categories every year. These include artists, researchers, cultural exchange participants, information technology specialists, religious workers, investors, scientists, athletes, nurses, agricultural workers and others. All foreign workers must obtain permission to work legally in the United States. Each employment category for admission has different requirements, conditions and authorized periods of stay. It is important that you adhere to the terms of your application or petition for admission and visa. Any violation can result in removal or denial of re-entry into the United States.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    They are overwhelmed by the # of immigrants who sign up for the class even though, according to the xenophobes, they don't want to learn english

    But since you're so eager to protect those immigrants from the risks of not knowing english, I'm sure you support increased funding for the classes.
    why should I be burdened with paying for someone's English classes? It seems the initiative to learn English at one's own expense isn't exactly an onerous burden to place on either long term immigration or citizenship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    No they cannot. You cannot stay indefinitely on a green card. Those who do usually let their card expire and are here illegally.
    I can't believe I have to explain your own laws to you guys. Yes, you CAN stay indefinitely on a green card as long as the government keeps renewing it. They are currently valid up to 10 years before you're required to renew it.


    http://www.uscis.gov/green-card/afte...new-green-card
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    They still have to pass tests and fill out paperwork. Green cards are not just given out, and again that doesn't change the requirements to become a permanent resident.
    you would look a lot less silly just admitting you were wrong.

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