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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Americans, the people that have borrowed from other cultures endlessly but gets angry if they choose to keep being themselves once they get here. Lolz. 'Murica, the original 4 year old child.
    If a person is going to behave like an obstinate jack ass who goes out of their way to violate the cultural norms of the nation where they're trying to settle, they are going to be treated like one. This is true across the board (many European nations have actually gone so far as to straight up ban certain alien cultural practices that they find to be distasteful, as a matter of fact).

    Many more "politically correct" Americans simply feel the need to overthink the matter for some bizarre reason.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    If a person is going to behave like an obstinate jack ass who goes out of their way to violate the cultural norms of the nation where they're trying to settle, they are going to be treated like one. This is true across the board (many European nations have actually gone so far as to straight up ban certain alien cultural practices that they find to be distasteful, as a matter of fact).

    Many more "politically correct" Americans simply feel the need to overthink the matter for some bizarre reason.
    Trying to settle? Nobody is trying to settle any nation. That's done by governments. People come here to eek out a living. That's it. They don't come here to wave flags and eat hot dogs and go to the Macy's parade. They come here to get a job, buy a house and send their kids to school. Not to engage in some faux nationalism you subscribe to.
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Trying to settle? Nobody is trying to settle any nation. That's done by governments. People come here to eek out a living. That's it. They don't come here to wave flags and eat hot dogs and go to the Macy's parade. They come here to get a job, buy a house and send their kids to school. Not to engage in some faux nationalism you subscribe to.
    Then you have no business being here. That's all there is to it.

    We have no need for "fair weather" citizens.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    If a person is going to behave like an obstinate jack ass who goes out of their way to violate the cultural norms of the nation where they're trying to settle, they are going to be treated like one. This is true across the board (many European nations have actually gone so far as to straight up ban certain alien cultural practices that they find to be distasteful, as a matter of fact).

    Many more "politically correct" Americans simply feel the need to overthink the matter for some bizarre reason.
    Absolutely. There are reasons for having a common language in a country. Just because some people are too dense to understand that concept doesn't mean anything.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Then you have no business being here. That's it.

    We have no need for "fair weather" citizens.
    Faith weather citizens? You mean everyone who has come here to US? The Puritans were running away from England. The Protestants came here to avoid the Catholics. The Africans were brought here for cheap labor. The Chinese came here to escape the British. Even the Native Americans came here to look for food. The Italians came here to escape poverty. The Irish came here to escape potatoes. So who exactly are you referring to as fair weather citizens? Everyone? Again, your faux nationalism gets you nowhere once you address it beyond platitudes.
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Then you have no business being here. That's all there is to it.

    We have no need for "fair weather" citizens.
    Actually, with our declining fertility rates, we do have a need for immigration to bolster our population growth
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Faith weather citizens? You mean everyone who has come here to US? The Puritans were running away from England. The Protestants came here to avoid the Catholics. The Africans were brought here for cheap labor. The Chinese came here to escape the British. Even the Native Americans came here to look for food. The Italians came here to escape poverty. The Irish came here to escape potatoes. So who exactly are you referring to as fair weather citizens? Everyone? Again, your faux nationalism gets you nowhere once you address it beyond platitudes.
    And they all (with the exception of the Africans and the Native Americans, which wasn't even their fault anyway) assimilated into mainstream American culture, and happily embraced American notions of nationalism.

    If the only reason you're in our nation in the first place is to leech off of the benefits our economy and welfare state provides, while giving nothing back in return and not even bothering to try and learn our language or customs in the process (which is pretty much exactly what you just suggested), you can go fly a kite for all I care. We neither need nor want you here.

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Actually, with our declining fertility rates, we do have a need for immigration to bolster our population growth
    Which is an excellent argument for why we need to pick up our own birthrates, and not blindly rely upon immigrant populations who may have no intention of respecting our values or way of life instead.

    If we're not careful, they might very well wind up taking our own country out from under us.
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Out here on the Left Coast, Coke bottled in Mexico is what many want. They use sugar instead of corn syrup.
    You can taste the difference.

    But the scuttlebutt is, they (Mexico) will soon be switching over to corn syrup. I think it's a NAFTA thing.
    I now difference between fructose (corn syrup, Coke made in US) and sucrose (sugar,Coke made in Mexiсo and Coke made specially for Passover in US), but i can't taste a differences. I drink tea. Hot black tea grown in India and Ceylon. I brew it in a special ceramic vessel. Nothing can compare with the color, taste and aroma of the real tea leaves. I never drink trash in the bags.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    And they all (with the exception of the Africans and the Native Americans, which wasn't even their fault anyway) assimilated into mainstream American culture, and happily embraced American notions of nationalism.
    After about 60-150 years. Which makes your current complaining about all those relatively new immigrant groups who won't assimilate: Unwarranted. Again, this is the country that 80 years ago wouldn't even have considered a Catholic president much less a black one. The same country who made it unlikely(use that term lightly) for Asians to do more than run laundry shops. It made it impossible to be Irish & Catholic and at the same time "wealthy". These same policies still exist though not as pronounced for the new immigrants. Now, it takes what? 5-10 years for people to become citizens. Another 25-30 years for them to find financial stability. So what do they do? The same as every other group that came before them. They go to their communities and join American society through their descendents, they learn English at their own pace and at their convenience or not at all if they have kids. They do as every other group has done. So quit your complaining and let them be.
    Last edited by Hatuey; 02-05-14 at 12:05 AM.
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