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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Okay, now here is where we might run into a bit of disagreement. I am not necessarily against amnestying children of illegal immigrants who were born and/or raised in this country. I just think it would be terrible to send a kid to his/her supposed "home country" when they really never even lived in that country and have only ever lived here.

    I'm really kind of torn on this particular issue when it comes to the children of immigrants, because they are kind of victims too.

    Agreed, but the problem with that is it encourages illegals to get here and then quickly have an 'anchor child' to secure their place.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    Naw I think we should go with Latin.
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    If I moved to Paris and applied for a work permit with intention of becoming a French citizen, one of the first and biggest items on my agenda would be "learn to speak French quickly and then work hard at mastering it!"


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    Yup.

    If I were to migrate to Germany, and make no effort to learn the language, adopt local customs, or even associate with native born German persons, I would not be worthy of being called a "German citizen." I would simply be an American living in Germany, and rightly looked down upon as being kind of an arrogant ass as such.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Okay, now here is where we might run into a bit of disagreement. I am not necessarily against amnestying children of illegal immigrants who were born and/or raised in this country. I just think it would be terrible to send a kid to his/her supposed "home country" when they really never even lived in that country and have only ever lived here.

    I'm really kind of torn on this particular issue when it comes to the children of immigrants, because they are kind of victims too.
    Children born on American soil should be naturalized citizens anyway. I certainly wouldn't support tossing them to the wolves simply because of the actions of their parents.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Agreed, but the problem with that is it encourages illegals to get here and then quickly have an 'anchor child' to secure their place.
    That might be true, but I just don't feel right about sending a kid back to a country that he/she never actually lived in, especially the ones (which is probably most) that have become more Americanized, and this is the only place they've ever called home. I don't know of any solutions to this problem, that's a reason why I'm torn about the issue when it comes to the children of illegal immigrants.

    Really, they have no one but their parents to blame for the whole fiasco. If the parents were so concerned, they should apply for legal citizenship.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Ave imperator! Pax Americana ad infinitum!



    Yup.

    If I were to migrate to Germany, and make no effort to learn the language, adopt local customs, or even associate with native born German persons, I would not be worthy of being called a "German citizen." I would simply be an American living in Germany, and rightly looked down upon as being kind of an arrogant ass as such.


    Exactly.


    Citizenship is about far more than simply living here.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    That might be true, but I just don't feel right about sending a kid back to a country that he/she never actually lived in, especially the ones (which is probably most) that have become more Americanized, and this is the only place they've ever called home. I don't know of any solutions to this problem, that's a reason why I'm torn about the issue when it comes to the children of illegal immigrants.

    Really, they have no one but their parents to blame for the whole fiasco. If the parents were so concerned, they should apply for legal citizenship.
    I'm actually not opposed to amnesty in this regard, TBH. We simply need to crack down on illegal immigration, so we don't have to deal with such problems in the first place.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    http://www.examiner.com/article/seve...-speak-english

    I'm assuming that's not counting illegal immigrants. Wow.
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Especially when our very own "English-Speakers" can't speak the language very well either.
    And having them write it, don't ask a math student to put into English words how they did the Math problem, a new part of common-core.
    Not if you don't want to be traumatized.

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    For those Spanish-speakers entering Kindergarten and other grades, I do believe in the tests having a Spanish translation.
    Almost exclusively, their parents Cannot even speak English, let alone actually speak it at home.
    I prefer the kids be accurately placed in Math and Science .
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Okay, now here is where we might run into a bit of disagreement. I am not necessarily against amnestying children of illegal immigrants who were born and/or raised in this country. I just think it would be terrible to send a kid to his/her supposed "home country" when they really never even lived in that country and have only ever lived here.

    I'm really kind of torn on this particular issue when it comes to the children of immigrants, because they are kind of victims too.
    Actually we are not in disagreement and we share the same ideals. What bothers me, okay what amuses me, is their demanding tone and suggestions of 'compromise'. Where did they learn that?

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

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    I'm sure you were considerate enough to start speaking Swiss as soon as you got off the boat!

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