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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    So only Americans are prideful in their accomplishments?
    What?? Where did you get that?

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    Does this quote not apply to America as well:
    "There is no such thing as a model or ideal Canadian. What could be more absurd than the concept of an "all Canadian" boy or girl? A society which emphasizes uniformity is one which creates intolerance and hate." - Pierre Trudeau
    Pierre Trudeau was a schmuck.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    This reminds me of a promotion that swept the television airwaves a number of years ago.
    You couldn't turn a TV on without seeing a paid promotion for the notion that the US Constitution was a "Living Document".
    The intention was not to promote the US Constitution as a vibrant document that defined human freedoms for history.
    The intention was to promote the interpretation of US Constitution as being whatever the hell you wanted it to mean.

    IOW ... that Constitution commercial and the Coke commercial were meant to do the same kind of thing.
    I'll leave you to decide what that is for yourself.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
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    Intellectually dishonest again. These are SPECIFIC exemptions and not the norm, usually because of a disability. Almost all immigrants upon entrance into the country are required to take and pass the citizenship test.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    There is no such thing as a model or ideal Canadian.
    Why on Earth not?

    A society which emphasizes uniformity is one which creates intolerance and hate.
    In practice, societies with a greater degree of differentiation between ethnic and cultural groups pretty much always experience greater levels of intolerance, violence, and conflict than those which encourage uniformity.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    What?? Where did you get that?
    Because, if you don't agree with them, they will try everything in their power to try to make you look like a "bad" person. That is their usual MO, and it should not surprise anyone. Nobody falls for this crap tactic anymore.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    They speak our language. They obey our laws. They make an effort to ingratiate themselves with the people already living here and contribute something to the collective whole of our society at large.

    They don't saunter in like they own the place, and demand that everyone else change to accommodate them. Such people are not behaving like potential citizens, with an interest in becoming a part of out greater culture, but arrogant tourists.

    They should be treated as such.
    You don't see this happening, but a lot of people do. Not all immigrants are illegals. Many are hardworking citizens who pay taxes, go to work, put their kids in school, etc. Not these awful miscreants who are just drains on society.
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    Does this quote not apply to America as well:
    "There is no such thing as a model or ideal Canadian. What could be more absurd than the concept of an "all Canadian" boy or girl? A society which emphasizes uniformity is one which creates intolerance and hate." - Pierre Trudeau
    Again, cultural assimilation and integration isn't a yes/no question. It's one of degrees and no one has endorsed the idea that everyone needs to be uniform.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    I agree, but since we are exchanging opinions......
    I would think, as an American, you would take pride in what was on display through that rendition of the song. Inclusiveness, tolerance, freedom.
    I would think, as a free man, that in order to be a better person you should believe what I believe.

    You are not American, right?

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Why on Earth not?



    In practice, societies with a greater degree of differentiation between ethnic and cultural groups pretty much always experience greater levels of intolerance, violence, and conflict than those which encourage uniformity.
    It is impossible to define an what an ideal Canadian is, it many different things to many different people. Canada. "I believe a constitution can permit the co-existence of several cultures and ethnic groups with a single state." -Pierre Trudeau

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