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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    Does anyone see the irony of Muslims, many of whom come from countries that execute gays and subjugate women, are in the commercial singing a song written by a lesbian?
    We have to pretend they don't do these things. I'm not sure why but it seem to be an unwritten rule somewhere.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    Does anyone see the irony of Muslims, many of whom come from countries that execute gays and subjugate women, are in the commercial singing a song written by a lesbian?
    No.
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    We have to pretend they don't do these things. I'm not sure why but it seem to be an unwritten rule somewhere.
    D'ya think that maybe those are among the reasons those people left?
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    D'ya think that maybe those are among the reasons those people left?
    What people left from where to where to do what?

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Oh, I see the problem now.

    The NYTimes didn't say he was White and Hispanic.
    What does the term "White Hispanic" mean to you?
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    What people left from where to where to do what?
    Those people who left those places where we pretend those other people don't do those things they do.
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL...no thank you. I don't watch FauxNews or MSNBC for the same reason. They are both propoganda outlets. As far as the NY Times, saying that Zimmerman was white and hispanic, I believe is accurate. I believe that he is bi-racial, unless I misunderstood. But it certainly isn't the same as calling him "white" or "Caucasian" which is what Rocketman was suggesting.
    Yeah, DD. You should watch more Fox News.



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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    I'm well aware of that. I'm Canadian. I'm also aware that it's never made my country either ineffective, or unproductive.
    No, but it certainly highlights the possible issues with the lack of integration with the larger cultural ideal. Which, as I said, makes it an odd example to cite in this thread and as a response to a poster who was essentially discussing such things. Certainly Switzerland is a good example of the opposite, but I imagine that is more based on the regional outlets the various linguistic groups have and the fact that economic and social opportunity seems largely equalized (my understanding of swiss politics is rather limited so correct me if I am wrong). The likely issue the US would face with a strongly isolated ethnic group, which an ingrained language barrier would help establish, is that we are talking about an economic underclass that would be further limiting their ability to take advantage of social and economic opportunity.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Wow. What a concept. Wish we could follow it, and not be so afraid of others.
    you should really read up on some of the rather serious ethnic tensions in Australia. I know Americans love embracing this idea that we are rather unique, even in our faults. But we really are not

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    We live in very sensitive times where anyone questioning the correct political positions is branded a 'racist', 'misogynist', anti Gay, and so on.

    However we should keep in mind that language is a means of communication only and encouraging people to speak the common language, especially in a 'melting pot' like the US, is not necessarily a bad thing.

    An argument was made a few years ago that 'Ebonics' should be taught to Black children in school because that's what they spoke in their neighborhoods. The result was that these Black children grew up to be unemployable.

    These people can be made welcome and encouraged to speak their native language, or any language they choose, but they are likely to be shut out from the mainstream and restricted to working and socializing only with those with the same language and culture. Without English the average person's world shrinks remarkably. And the better your English is the more employable and socially advanced you will become.That's just the way it is.
    this is a great post and should be read and acknowledged by everyone here

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