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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    Ohfercryingoutloud.
    Alright, you tell me, what makes someone value uniformity over diversity?
    I didn't realize I had to either embrace diversity entirely or accept uniformity in all things. Who knows, maybe the way you look at the question is overly simplistic and meant to indulge your similarly characterized political views?

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now! View Post

    Dirt with plants on it is definitely not uniquely American.
    Most republics have protections of individual rights, most have market economies, many are nations of immigrants, many are quite diverse..... We invented National Parks. We invented the concept of protected wilderness. Our land is what makes us different. That is what most people that came here in the first 150 years of our history saw, a land. Our land is our culture.
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Who said that??
    Allen West, I quoted him in the same post you quoted.

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    I'm an immigrant to Germany, and I promise you if I stood up and sung their national anthem or a patriotically German song in English most Germans would be highly offended.

    Being an immigrant means learning your host nation's language and being respectful of their customs. This ad wasn't atrocious, just poor taste.
    This isn't Germany, someone singing America the Beautiful in Spanish, Chinese, German, whatever is utilizing their 1st amendment rights no differently than someone singing it in English.

    America not is following a set of cultural and life choices; but having the freedom to choose whatever cultural or lifestyle you want while affording others the same freedom

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Relax, I was just funnin'.
    I know, hey, his machine killed fascists.
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Allen West, I quoted him in the same post you quoted.



    This isn't Germany, someone singing America the Beautiful in Spanish, Chinese, German, whatever is utilizing their 1st amendment rights no differently than someone singing it in English.

    America not is following a set of cultural and life choices; but having the freedom to choose whatever cultural or lifestyle you want while affording others the same freedom
    Did you seriously just bring up the 1st amendment? Did I, or anyone, say they should be arrested and thrown in jail? Do you always jump to strawman hyperbole? All I said was that it was poor taste to take a patriotically American song and sing it in a foreign language. It's a lot like Borat's national anthem parody at the rodeo.
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    I think we were much more unified in the past than we are today. At the very least, it can be said that the dominant culture was still strong enough not to face serious threat from any potential challengers.

    This seems to be changing. I anticipate that this reality will ultimately cause far more problems than it will bring benefits to our society as a whole.
    I disagree, most cities were far more self segregated than they are today. Today even churches are melting pots. A few decades ago that was unheard of.
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Did you seriously just bring up the 1st amendment? Did I, or anyone, say they should be arrested and thrown in jail? Do you always jump to strawman hyperbole? All I said was that it was poor taste to take a patriotically American song and sing it in a foreign language. It's a lot like Borat's national anthem parody at the rodeo.
    Speaking of strawman, I didn't say that you said that. No I just meant that perhaps if you were reminded of the fact that its protected like any other speech it may chance your mind if you viewed it as an exercise of one's individual rights.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Speaking of strawman, I didn't say that you said that. No I just meant that perhaps if you were reminded of the fact that its protected like any other speech it may chance your mind if you viewed it as an exercise of one's individual rights.
    Oh, thanks for reminding me that we have a 1st amendment. I totally forgot about that! You are so god damn helpful, you are truly a treasure to this forum.

    Maybe you can cruise around the internet and find people who want to imprison the Coca Cola CEO for the ad, then inform them about the 1st amendment.
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    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    I understand what they were going for, but the concept still made me vaguely uncomfortable.

    If a nation's citizens need one thing in common in order to function effectively, it tends to be a language they can all speak and mutually understand. Tolerance for multiculturalism is all well and good, but it cannot be a society's primary objective in and of itself.

    It simply doesn't lead anywhere productive.
    I find myself agreeing with you again, Gathomas. What a sight.

    Multiculturalism is useful as a stepping stone to assimilation, but I entirely agree that a nation must have some sort of working lingua franca to get anywhere.

    France is actually pretty good at this. Despite a huge number of immigrants, French law is stringent that French and French only is the national language, and it is required that everyone in the country speak at least passable French if they want to do anything more than sit at home.

    This is, in my opinion, one of the last stumbling blocks before the EU can finally self-realise in a big way.

    I think maybe the French should conquer everyone again, get rid of all the Germans, then we could sweep in and impose English as the language of the EU after the Second Napoleonic World War.

    Plausible?

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    I didn't realize I had to either embrace diversity entirely or accept uniformity in all things. Who knows, maybe the way you look at the question is overly simplistic and meant to indulge your similarly characterized political views?
    Maybe. And maybe this, "... either embrace diversity entirely or accept uniformity in all things." and this, "...overly simplistic ..." is an invitation to bicker. Declined.
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