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Thread: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Sadly though, I wouldn't want to live anywhere else that didn't have English as their primary language. That leaves, Canada, England, Ireland, Scotland, Australia, New Zealand and a few Islands. My old brain just couldn't adapt enough for me to learn everything again.
    Eh. I think I could swing Germany (for obvious reasons).

    I'm not sure if I could live somewhere too vastly different from the Anglosphere, however.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Has anyone mentioned a specific nationality here? I know that I haven't, and I don't think I like your accusatory tone either.

    Yes, they are basically illiterate if they cannot read, write or speak English. I'm sorry if you don't like it, but those are just facts.

    If they can't speak a lick of English, they are more than likely illegal immigrants. The citizenship test is in English because it is supposed to be a requirement to become a citizen. What exactly are you suggesting anyways?
    Can you honestly say that if 100 Frenchmen came over, you would have a problem with it?

    Honestly, it's hypocritical that people are OK with some immigrants, but not others. If we are going to allow for certain nationalities, we have to allow for all of them. I am not pointing a finger at you, Chris - most people who are anti-immigration are actually anti-Mexican immigration, or anti-Cuban immigration.

    I just don't know why. Europeans come over here and within 5 days, they've gotten jobs, impregnated the boss's daughter and are building a house. Mexicans come over and they are cutting the Frenchman's grass, and looking over their shoulders for immigration.

    I don't understand why some is OK but not all.
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    There is a word for people who speak two languages ...
    ...Bi-lingual
    There is a word for people who speak many languages ...
    ...Multi-lingual
    There is even a word for people who speak only one language ...
    ..American
    Not true. There are PLENTY of people in other countries who only speak their native languages OBVIOUSLY, hence the thread. LOL silly!

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I have no problem with people being proud of their heritage, celebrating their own holidays, making their own kind of food, etc. I appreciate all of those things too, and I think most people do. I totally agree that it makes things more interesting, and we have a lot of little communities in America like that. Little Italy, China Town, etc.

    I just think it is utterly ridiculous to expect a society to cater to the immigrants it accepts into the country. People might not like it, but there have to be some rules or there are consequences. A person who is planning on moving to the United States should have a compulsory understanding of the language.

    I can't imagine going to a country where I couldn't communicate with anyone. I think that would totally suck!
    Hell, most of the world is a lot more strict than we are in this regard. The requirements for citizenship in a lot of European nations, for instance, are utterly insane.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Can you honestly say that if 100 Frenchmen came over, you would have a problem with it?

    Honestly, it's hypocritical that people are OK with some immigrants, but not others. If we are going to allow for certain nationalities, we have to allow for all of them. I am not pointing a finger at you, Chris - most people who are anti-immigration are actually anti-Mexican immigration, or anti-Cuban immigration.

    I just don't know why. Europeans come over here and within 5 days, they've gotten jobs, impregnated the boss's daughter and are building a house. Mexicans come over and they are cutting the Frenchman's grass, and looking over their shoulders for immigration.

    I don't understand why some is OK but not all.
    I don't what you're trying to insinuate, but if they couldn't speak, read or write in English then YES. Just to be clear, I am not anti-anything here. The things I'm talking about are just logic and common sense.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Eh. I think I could swing Germany (for obvious reasons).

    I'm not sure if I could live somewhere too vastly different from the Anglosphere, however.
    In high school, I badly wanted to tour Europe. They were offering field trips back then at discounted rates. But my old man, who'd been there said it was just a bunch of dirty old cities...lol

    I'd still like to see some landmarks and try different wines, cheeses, desserts and whatever.
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Hell, most of the world is a lot more strict than we are in this regard. The requirements for citizenship in a lot of European nations, for instance, are utterly insane.
    Yes, but the United States is supposed to be everybody's daddy. We have to take care of everyone and coddle them like little infants. God forbid we impose any kind of inconvenience on anyone from another country, even if it is logical.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Can you honestly say that if 100 Frenchmen came over, you would have a problem with it?

    Honestly, it's hypocritical that people are OK with some immigrants, but not others. If we are going to allow for certain nationalities, we have to allow for all of them. I am not pointing a finger at you, Chris - most people who are anti-immigration are actually anti-Mexican immigration, or anti-Cuban immigration.

    I just don't know why. Europeans come over here and within 5 days, they've gotten jobs, impregnated the boss's daughter and are building a house. Mexicans come over and they are cutting the Frenchman's grass, and looking over their shoulders for immigration.

    I don't understand why some is OK but not all.
    The Europeans are generally skilled labor, and are viewed as being a boon to the economy as such. The Mexicans usually aren't.

    They are also often illegal, and might even draw welfare benefits while paying nothing in taxes.

    Personally, I don't have any problem with Latin immigrants coming to the United States. However, I do expect that they try to learn the language, and pay taxes if they are going to draw benefits.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    In high school, I badly wanted to tour Europe. They were offering field trips back then at discounted rates. But my old man, who'd been there said it was just a bunch of dirty old cities...lol

    I'd still like to see some landmarks and try different wines, cheeses, desserts and whatever.
    I'd love to tour Europe some day. I think the history of those old cities is fascinating. There are many places I'd like to see.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    In high school, I badly wanted to tour Europe. They were offering field trips back then at discounted rates. But my old man, who'd been there said it was just a bunch of dirty old cities...lol

    I'd still like to see some landmarks and try different wines, cheeses, desserts and whatever.
    I'd definitely recommend it if you get the chance.

    Germany was actually very clean on the whole, and the people were generally welcoming and friendly. France (or, at least, Paris) was less so, but still worth the trip for the food and the landmarks.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Yes, but the United States is supposed to be everybody's daddy. We have to take care of everyone and coddle them like little infants. God forbid we impose any kind of inconvenience on anyone from another country, even if it is logical.
    I think the issue is too heavily politicized, to be honest. It makes it hard for people to look at things clearly.

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