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Thread: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Doubtful. Money talks. Most any country worth living in has expat communities, anyway, so it's not like you are going to be wandering around the town square, asking for a bathroom.
    You are missing the point. These people are basically illiterate!

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Our country is falling behind in education as it is. Learning a foreign language should be the least of your concerns when it comes to education. In fact, we probably have more bilingual people now than ever in the past, and our country is behind other countries when it comes to test scores.
    I took 2 years of French in high school, and they never got past the grammar to actually learning to pronounce words.
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    And? Why does that give every new "Johnny come lately" on the block the right to build a new culture on our own backs instead?

    That seems a lot like "two wrongs making a right," which is fallacious reasoning.

    The fact of the matter here is that our culture's history is completely irrelevant. What matters is that it exists now, and forms the standard upon which American society has formed.

    Creating needless deviation from that established norm is only going to cause problems, not solve them.
    Cause problems for whom? People who are too afraid to accept the culture of other people? Personally, I love the multiculturalism that this country offers. I think it's fantastic, and I think it's sad that people can be so closed-minded that they are willing to throw the baby out with the bathwater, just because they don't like change. How much change do you think that immigrants have gone through, just to be able to be here? Just to be able to provide for their families? And you are telling them that they can't celebrate their culture? What hubris!
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Our country is falling behind in education as it is. Learning a foreign language should be the least of your concerns when it comes to education. In fact, we probably have more bilingual people now than ever in the past, and our country is behind other countries when it comes to test scores.
    You shouldn't assume you know, just because I said we should learn a foreign language in our schools doesn't mean I don't think we shouldn't focus on other areas too. Besides learning a foreign language has its benefits, I speak a foreign language and look how smarter I am than you


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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    You are missing the point. These people are basically illiterate!
    What people? The 14 million Mexican immigrants? Because I'm sure that's what we are talking about here. Nobody cares if the French come over, or the Canadians, but dammit, let a bunch of Mexicans come in, or those damn Cubans, and it's all over. The country's shot.

    And how do you know that they are illiterate? English is one of the hardest languages in the world to learn. Maybe they are trying, but having a hard time with it.
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    I took 2 years of French in high school, and they never got past the grammar to actually learning to pronounce words.
    I remember there was some stupid test to take to see if you would potentially have proficiency in French, and we had to try to identify the differences between different French vowel sounds. Most of us were laughing because it sounded so silly. It was just a person making different vowel sounds on tape, no words or anything, just funny noises. I took some Spanish, but because I used it so infrequently, I don't remember hardly any of it.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Cause problems for whom?
    Everyone, if incidents like the Trayvon Martin shooting, or the rampant cartel activity and gang violence along our Southwestern border are any indication.

    And you are telling them that they can't celebrate their culture? What hubris!
    I'm not saying that anyone cannot "celebrate" their culture. I'm quite proud of my own heritage, and "celebrate" it often, as a matter of fact.

    Again, I simply do so while speaking English, and conforming to American social norms.

    It's really not that much to ask that recent immigrants do the same.
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    You shouldn't assume you know, just because I said we should learn a foreign language in our schools doesn't mean I don't think we shouldn't focus on other areas too. Besides learning a foreign language has its benefits, I speak a foreign language and look how smarter I am than you

    Nope, sorry, we can only put ourselves out so much. They have to take some responsibility for themselves, and learning to speak English is not a lot to ask of them, considering all of the benefits they gain by living here in America.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I remember there was some stupid test to take to see if you would potentially have proficiency in French, and we had to try to identify the differences between different French vowel sounds. Most of us were laughing because it sounded so silly. It was just a person making different vowel sounds on tape, no words or anything, just funny noises. I took some Spanish, but because I used it so infrequently, I don't remember hardly any of it.
    My parents taught me more actual French (dirty words). The school wanted us to learn to spell before we spoke, stupid.

    I had a friend who took 5 years of Spanish and can't remember much. I love certain things from other cultures, especially food variety, clothing styles, music and other stuff. Their language just isn't one of them.
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I remember there was some stupid test to take to see if you would potentially have proficiency in French, and we had to try to identify the differences between different French vowel sounds. Most of us were laughing because it sounded so silly. It was just a person making different vowel sounds on tape, no words or anything, just funny noises. I took some Spanish, but because I used it so infrequently, I don't remember hardly any of it.
    I was planning on taking Spanish in college, but my commanding officer wasn't having any of it.

    He basically told me, "you need to learn either Arabic, Russian, or Chinese if you ever want to get a decent job in your line of work."

    I chose Russian, because it had the easiest alphabet and pronunciation of the three.

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