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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Hey! No fair, you stole my idea! I would say you owe me a Coke . . . .
    Suuuure... I sole your idea.


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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

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    Re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Moore and Beck would never have been able to sell their brand of bull**** if people weren't more than willing to gobble it up. Ultimately, the problem lies with us.
    Not me, I don't watch either of them.

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    Re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

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    Not me, I don't watch either of them.
    I don't either. I meant the general "us."
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    Re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    And despite their isolation, they managed to assimilate.
    How does that make sense. isolation would only aid assimulation.

    Immigrants today, with just a few minor exceptions, face most of the same pressures to assimilate and throughout american history millions of Latinos have done just that
    1) I outlined how Latinos in this immigrant wave were different and are having a more difficult time assimilating.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1062885219

    2) above you quote an explanation outlining how in one aspect they face less pressures. Another is that the state and society in general is putting less pressure on them to do so

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    Re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I have done more than enough travelling, both within the US and without, to know what I'm talking about.
    Where?

    And while no one has said there is no such thing as an american culture
    It has been implied here numerous times already

    I know enough about it to know that what distinguishes our culture from others is not something that foreigners are incapable or unwilling to take part of.
    Who said foreigners, in general, were incapable and unwilling? The argument was a subset of immigrants were failing to do so

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    Re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    How does that make sense. isolation would only aid assimulation.
    It depends on what they're isolated from. Being isolated from their home country would aid assimilation. Being isolated from our culture, by spending most of their time in an ethnic ghetto, makes assimilation more difficult


    1) I outlined how Latinos in this immigrant wave were different and are having a more difficult time assimilating.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1062885219
    Yes, I remember now. I found it very weak. Having govt forms in their language, etc is not a very compelling reason to not assimilate. The fact remains that even with such things, the pressure to assimilate is overwhelming. Their financial security, among other things, depends on their assimilating. Particularly in a nation where so few speak anything but English.

    2) above you quote an explanation outlining how in one aspect they face less pressures. Another is that the state and society in general is putting less pressure on them to do so
    Times change. In some areas, there are less pressures. In others, more pressure. But since you seem to think the pressure has lessened overall, I'd love to hear the evidence you think demonstrates that Latinos are not assimilating and the ways in which they aren't assimilating, particularly with respect to american culture (as opposed to simply learning english)
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    Re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Where?
    All around the US, and overseas but no Asia (with the exception of Thailand when I was younger) or Africa.

    It has been implied here numerous times already
    No, what has been argued is that there is no one set of cultural practices that is *the* norm for american culture and that, as a result, there are areas in the US where culture varies greatly.



    Who said foreigners, in general, were incapable and unwilling? The argument was a subset of immigrants were failing to do so
    Gath has described many Latinos as unwilling to assimilate.

    I noticed you skipped over my question:
    But since you want to present yourself as some kind of expert on the matter, perhaps you can share what is unique about our culture and explain how Latinos are not taking part in our culture.
    I think it's only fair that if you're going to argue that (some/many) Latinos are not assimilating to American culture you should, at the very least, identify those cultural practices and values that they are rejecting.
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