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Thread: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Moore and Beck would never have been able to sell their brand of bull**** if people weren't more than willing to gobble it up. Ultimately, the problem lies with us.
    Yeah, they're just fulfilling a demand

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Moore and Beck would never have been able to sell their brand of bull**** if people weren't more than willing to gobble it up. Ultimately, the problem lies with us.
    True enough.

    Still though, I think there's something to be said for settling political disputes through blood sport. It certainly has a tendency to "thin the herd" a bit where partisan hacks are concerned.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    I'm not sure why you guys want to dismiss the idea of an american culture. Neither the idea of regionalism, or a mixing pot precludes such. With some of the obvious aspects of it being secularism and individualism

    Maybe you guys need to travel outside the US more
    Absolutely. It is only those who have never been anywhere else who think they do not share in a common American culture. Or they are leftists who are naturally critical of their own country, and this is true of leftists in every western democracy.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    They were more isolated than current mexican populations. Not only do they have easier access to mexico, but demographics spread out from the border and communities exist across the region. "chinatowns" were limited to a few major cities and they did not have easy access to china
    And despite their isolation, they managed to assimilate. Immigrants today, with just a few minor exceptions, face most of the same pressures to assimilate and throughout american history millions of Latinos have done just that
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Absolutely. It is only those who have never been anywhere else who think they do not share in a common American culture. Or they are leftists who are naturally critical of their own country, and this is true of leftists in every western democracy.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Prove that I ever made that claim.



    Prove that I ever made that claim.



    47% of Latino adults not believing themselves to fit in with mainstream American culture, and only 21% of them choosing to identify themselves as being primarily "American" does not demonstrate difficulty in assimilation?

    And just what definition of "assimilation" are you using exactly?



    Prove that it is.



    I don't see an answer to my question here.

    Point to the specific ways in which "Latin culture" can be said to have contributed to US culture as a whole.

    If the impact has truly been so immense as you claim, surely you must be able to point out at least a few notable examples.



    None of which have anything whatsoever to do with Latinos, or make any sense whatsoever within the context of your argument here.

    What is your point?



    No, you are lying.

    The facts are all right there in black and white for anyone with the eyes to look to see.

    NY Times



    When Labels Donít Fit: Hispanics and Their Views of Identity





    Feel free to prove them wrong.



    Prove it.



    Prove it.



    Ummm... Where in the Hell are you getting those numbers?

    Assuming we use the formula described below, a starting population of 50 million people, and an equal death rate...

    Population growth

    ...

    The formula for population growth is N = Noert

    The difference between a 2.1 fertility rate and a 2.4 birth rate using that particular equation is only about 20 million people (i.e. 100 million people for the black population vs 120 million people for the Latino population).

    The differences in birth rate are clearly not enough to account for the disparity which is projected to exist in overall population growth rates between these two groups.



    Prove it.



    Prove it, and prove that unassimilated or slowly assimilating Latinos are not still a problem.



    Prove it.



    Prove it.



    Prove it.
    Your claims have been so absurd that even you now have to deny making them
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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    You've never been out of the country either, huh? Have you ever been out of your state?

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You've never been out of the country either, huh? Have you ever been out of your state?
    Of course I have. Your notion that "leftists" are "naturally critical of their own country" is hackishly absurd. But it's par for the course for you ... if it's bad, "leftists" must by nature be guilty of it.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    And despite their isolation, they managed to assimilate. Immigrants today, with just a few minor exceptions, face most of the same pressures to assimilate and throughout american history millions of Latinos have done just that
    They do not. The lack of pressure to assimilate faced by modern Latino immigrants in many parts of the country is historically unique.

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    Your claims have been so absurd that even you now have to deny making them
    Prove it.

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    re: Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Your claims have been so absurd that even you now have to deny making them
    This is the Kobie system of debate. Eventually all leftists fall silent when confronted with facts, or divert from the subject.

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