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Woody Allen - Pedophile?

Woody Allen


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Well, why does she have a hatred for him? Could it be because she found out that he sexually molested her child/children? I couldn't blame her for having some hatred in that case.
At the very least for the Soon Yi thing, for which I do not blame her. However, having said that, that does not necessarily equate to the other stuff. It is not unheard of for a person make these kinds of allegations when they themselves are really the only ones that were hurt that deeply emotionally. In fact, it's actually fairly common. We just don't hear about many of them as most people involved are not of the celebrity status of Mia Farrow or Woody Allen.
 
Here is some additional information.

Orth’s revisitation of the Allen-Farrow scandal, including the first-ever media interview with Dylan. The interview was a bombshell: Dylan (who now uses a different name) did not waver from the story she told at age 7 about Allen molesting and sexually assaulting her in the attic of her mother’s home in Connecticut, on Aug. 4, 1992. On her side is her brother, media-star-in-the-making Ronan Farrow. After Allen received a lifetime-achievement award at last Sunday’s Golden Globes ceremony, Ronan tweeted, “Missed the Woody Allen tribute—did they put the part where a woman publicly confirmed he molested her at age 7 before or after Annie Hall?”

What we know is that in August 1992, Farrow and Dylan visited Dylan’s pediatrician, who then contacted authorities about an abuse allegation. The Connecticut state attorney later asked the Yale–New Haven Hospital Child Sexual Abuse Clinic to evaluate Dylan. In March 1993, the clinic “concluded that Dylan had not been sexually abused,” according to Orth in Vanity Fair.

Case closed? Not necessarily. Three months later, that June, Acting Justice Elliot Wilk of New York State Supreme Court ruled against Allen in his effort to wrest custody of his three children from Farrow. Wilk criticized Yale–New Haven’s findings, stating that the hospital’s team had not interviewed Dylan, declined to testify at trial except via deposition, and destroyed its notes on the case. In her first piece for Vanity Fair about the Allen case, published in 1992, Orth had at least 25 on-the-record interviews—with sources both named and unnamed—attesting that Allen was “completely obsessed” with Dylan: “He could not seem to keep his hands off her,” Orth wrote.

In his June 1993 ruling, Wilk also denied Allen any visitation rights with Dylan or his older adopted child with Farrow, 15-year-old Moses. In May 1994, in a hearing considering custody or increased visitation for Allen, the Appellate Division of the state Supreme Court cited a “clear consensus” among psychiatric experts involved in the case that Allen’s “interest in Dylan was abnormally intense.”

But Finkelhor, again speaking generally, also makes the case for an entirely different scenario. “In other cases, people will make claims about things that they were willing to look past or that children were keeping under wraps for fear of breaking up the family,” he says. “These things will come out at the time [of a divorce or custody battle], because then they feel more freedom to articulate them. … The consequences of realizing that intra-family sexual abuse is going on are so devastating that it’s not uncommon for people to overlook it or explain it away.”

In the Time interview, Allen strongly suggests a cause-and-effect relationship between Farrow discovering his affair with Soon-Yi and the molestation allegations. But that account is hard to deduce from the timeline of events. Farrow found out about the affair when Allen left pornographic photographs of Soon-Yi on his mantel in January 1992—eight months before Dylan made her allegations. By Orth’s account, Allen was already in therapy for “inappropriate behavior” with Dylan before the revelation of the affair.

Did Woody Allen molest his adopted daughter 22 years ago? Reviewing the evidence.
 
Woody Allen, scumbag. Desirable to isolate him from society. Or simply to score as a sick animal.
 
So, "Allen was already in therapy for "inappropriate behavior" with Dylan BEFORE the revelation of the affair" with Soon-Yi. :roll:
 
At the very least for the Soon Yi thing, for which I do not blame her. However, having said that, that does not necessarily equate to the other stuff. It is not unheard of for a person make these kinds of allegations when they themselves are really the only ones that were hurt that deeply emotionally. In fact, it's actually fairly common. We just don't hear about many of them as most people involved are not of the celebrity status of Mia Farrow or Woody Allen.

Yes, and please read my post #203 carefully. There are many different dynamics involved with such a complicated and devastating situation.
 
Woody Allen's adopted daughter accuses him of assaulting her at age 7 - CNN.com

Mia Farrow's daughter resurrects Woody Allen molestation claim | Fox News


So, what are your thoughts on Woody Allen?

Is he a pedophile?

Creepy bastard?

Harmless Peepaw?

Legendary director and actor?

Should legal action be taken immediately?




It appears that the accusation has been made, so yes it should be investigated.

Even if true, I don't see how anything could be proven without a confession from Allen.

We'll just have to wait and see how this turns out.

Obviously Allen is able to afford the best lawyers, etc. I doubt that he will ever be convicted for that and other reasons.
 
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And who could blame this mom for thinking that perhaps this little weirdo may have sexually molested her OTHER daughters after his inappropriate behavior with Soon-Yi? I think ANY good mother would have questions after such a revelation and maybe even go a little bat-crap crazy too.
 
It appears that the accusation has been made, so yes it should be investigated.

It was investigated at the time and the girl's testimony was found to be flawed. Has any new evidence emerged?

This is the best article on the matter I've read so far.
But if Mia’s account is true, it means that in the middle of custody and support negotiations, during which Woody needed to be on his best behavior, in a house belonging to his furious ex-girlfriend, and filled with people seething mad at him, Woody, who is a well-known claustrophobic, decided this would be the ideal time and place to take his daughter into an attic and molest her, quickly, before a house full of children and nannies noticed they were both missing.
 
Did you read my link? The affair revelation with Soon-Yi came out AFTER Woody was already receiving therapy for "inappropriate behavior" with Dylan.

The court said that there was nothing sexual about his "inappropriately intense" interest with Dylan. It does not say that any of his behavior was inappropriate
 
Did you read my link? The affair revelation with Soon-Yi came out AFTER Woody was already receiving therapy for "inappropriate behavior" with Dylan.

Yes, I saw it. Your Slate article and the Daily Beast article I linked to contradict one another on points of fact. Who are you going to believe? Your choice.
 
Frack if I know. He IS one weird, creepy, apparently messed-up sumbitch, for sure.
 
How old was his other adopted child when he married her?

Edit] His wife's adopted child.

After marrying a 16yr old (ok, I know he was 19 himself) and a relationship with a 17 yr old previously...who knows what else.

Edit again] from Wiki: Farrow discovered nude photographs that Allen had taken of Soon-Yi...

Give me a break. Would you leave him alone with your grandmother, never mind a defenseless child?

Apart from anything else, Mia Farrow looks like a child...
 
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His own biological son says differently, and so does his adopted daughter, AND it shows his depravity marrying Soon. It is disgusting no matter how you want to justify it.

Well, I agree that a 55 yr old marrying a 20 yr old is disgusting but not illegal and should not be used as a rationale for thinking that he is guilty of sexual contact with a 7 yr old. At the time the supposed incident happened, it was 4 months after Mia found nude pictures of Soon-Yi in Woody's possession and this caused an end to their 12 yr relationship. There is something suspicious about Woody doing something at that time, with Mia in the house, to do something like that when he had numerous chances earlier. Mia sounds like a scorned woman out for revenge who poisoned her own children against Woody. This happens all the time. I imagine that Woody is not the best parent material and not loved by his children but that is not a crime either.
 
Woody Allen's adopted daughter accuses him of assaulting her at age 7 - CNN.com

Mia Farrow's daughter resurrects Woody Allen molestation claim | Fox News


So, what are your thoughts on Woody Allen?

Is he a pedophile?

Creepy bastard?

Harmless Peepaw?

Legendary director and actor?

Should legal action be taken immediately?

I am not sure he is a pedophile, he did marry the daughter of his partner. He did not adopt that child (Mia Farrow did that with her previous husband) and he was not married with Mia Farrow so he was not the stepfather of that child.

We do not have any evidence that he had an inappropriate relationship with Soon Yi before she turned 18 and there is no evidence that he had an inappropriate relationship with the girl that is now claiming that he did. Innocent until proven otherwise on the pedophilia issue but what has not happened now might still happen (though unlikely IMHO after all this time).

But he is a creepy perv to have a sexual relation with a girl that he had a "father-like" relationship with.
 
"Director Woody Allen made headlines in 1992 when, at the age of 56, it was revealed that he was in a relationship with 21-year-old Soon-Yi Previn, the adopted daughter of Mia Farrow, his girlfriend of over 10 years and the leading lady in 13 of his films.
Farrow discovered the relationship when she found nude photos of Previn taken in Allen's Manhattan duplex, according to a 1992 People magazine article. The revelation sent Allen's name in the headlines and played out in court in a custody battle over Farrow and Allen's biological son Satchel.
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Allen and Previn wed in December 1997 in Venice, Italy and have two adopted daughters. Back in 1992, Soon-Yi Previn told Time magazine she never considered Allen a father figure in her life.

"To think that Woody was in any way a father or stepfather to me is laughable. My parents are Andre Previn and Mia, but obviously they're not even my real parents," Previn said at the time. "I came to America when I was seven. I was never remotely close to Woody. He was someone who was devoted exclusively to his own children and to his work, and we never spent a moment together." ... "

Woody Allen speaks about marriage to Soon-Yi and wonders 'What was the Scandal?' - 08/30/2013 | Entertainment News from OnTheRedCarpet.com
 
Very interesting.

Looks like I may have misjudged Woody, maybe he's not a pervert after all.

Afternoon shrubnose, I just don't know what to think.

Mia Farrow and Vanity Fair have a long standing relationship since the very beginning of this saga heavily influenced by the interviews with Farrow. The more recent one was last year when she stated that her son Rowan could possibly be Frank Sinatra's. When they investigated the claim, Nancy Sinatra sent emails claiming Rowan was a big part of us. He does have Sinatra's eyes.
Then you have two of the children's nannies that gave testimony at the sex abuse trial. One nanny, Monica Thompson, said she was pressured into agreeing to the telling of the molestation story then recanted her original statement and was called to testify at the trial. Through Monica's testimony another nanny was mentioned Kristie Groteke, Dylan's baby-sitter, drove her to the bus, and her fellow employee was "very upset." "She told me that she felt guilty allowing Ms. Farrow to say those things about Mr. Allen. (Groteke) said the day Mr. Allen spent with the kids, she did not have Dylan out of her sight for longer than five minutes. She did not remember Dylan being without her underwear." Which was something Mia Farrow claimed. Kristie Groteke was subpoenaed to testify also.

Nanny Casts Doubt on Farrow Charges : Custody: She tells Allen's lawyers the actress pressured her to support molestation accusations against him. She says others have reservations. - Los Angeles Times

Later Groteke wrote a book about her employment there during the custody trial. She never makes the claim that Allen molested his daughter but does bring up the possibility that the child may have been coerced into stating so. And she tells that after Mia found out about Soon-Yi and Allen, Mia was working on a Allen's Hannah and her Sisters and did not stop filming and continued to have dinner with him and talked to him daily. Now does that sound like someone who feared for Allen to be around her children?

Mia & Woody: Love and Betrayal: Kristine Groteke, Marjorie Rosen: 9780786700660: Amazon.com: Books

The pieces to the puzzle just aren't fitting together at least not to the point I can say he is guilty.
 
I'll wait until there is a trial with complete evidence before I form an opinion. I don't think that his being with a seventeen year old makes him that much more likely to have molested the young children. I also don't necessarily trust the claims of the Farrow kids due to the years of influence from the openly bitter mother. Such claims should be taken seriously and investigated, but the satanic child abuse scares of the 1980s (McMartin et al) show that authority figures can and will induce false accusations from children and adults, especially when hypnotism is used.
 
I'll wait until there is a trial with complete evidence before I form an opinion. I don't think that his being with a seventeen year old makes him that much more likely to have molested the young children. I also don't necessarily trust the claims of the Farrow kids due to the years of influence from the openly bitter mother. Such claims should be taken seriously and investigated, but the satanic child abuse scares of the 1980s (McMartin et al) show that authority figures can and will induce false accusations from children and adults, especially when hypnotism is used.
Many people don't even know about those cases. The people who pulled that crap were outright criminals, IMO. It should be noted that these accusations were also about the same time, when railroading innocent people was at its full height.
 
Woody Allen's adopted daughter accuses him of assaulting her at age 7 - CNN.com

Mia Farrow's daughter resurrects Woody Allen molestation claim | Fox News


So, what are your thoughts on Woody Allen?

Is he a pedophile?

Creepy bastard?

Harmless Peepaw?

Legendary director and actor?

Should legal action be taken immediately?

You do not say!

Surprised, but he married his step-daughter. Obviously the age gap is attractive to this creepy looking actor and director oldy.
 
Many people don't even know about those cases. The people who pulled that crap were outright criminals, IMO. It should be noted that these accusations were also about the same time, when railroading innocent people was at its full height.

Now the latest trendy exaggerated/unwarranted fear is human trafficking esp. sex trafficking. People need to be very skeptical of the claims and statistics being used to justify funding for the largely non-existent problem. When it does happen in the USA it is usually done to immigrant domestic and agricultural workers and not so much to strippers, prostitutes and porn performers, as claimed by some advocates. People also need to watch whether the people being "saved" aren't being harmed more by law enforcement and immigration officials than they were by their employers and whether the 'victims' are being coerced into making false claims to avoid deportation.
 
I found this excerpt from Dylan's open letter to be quite interesting. It certainly sounds consistent with child sex abuse, everything about it sounds genuine, right down to the guilt and shame.

“That he got away with what he did to me haunted me as I grew up,” Farrow wrote. “I was stricken with guilt that I had allowed him to be near other little girls.”

Representatives for Allen and his former partner Mia Farrow didn’t return requests for comment from The Associated Press. The Times reported that Allen declined to comment. He has long maintained his innocence.

In the letter, Dylan Farrow claims that in 1992 at the family’s Connecticut home, Allen led her to a “dim, closet-like attic” and “then he sexually assaulted me.” Farrow didn’t specify Allen’s actions, but she described other abusive behaviour.

Farrow said Allen would have her get in bed with him and at other times “place his head in my naked lap and breathe in and breathe out.”

“For as long as I could remember, my father had been doing things to me that I didn’t like,” Farrow said. “These things happened so often, so routinely, so skillfully hidden from a mother that would have protected me had she known, that I thought it was normal.”
 
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Pedophile... Asshole ... not at all funny...
 
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