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  • Harmless Peepaw

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    8 8.25%
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    17 17.53%
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    Re: Woody Allen - Pedophile?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    You may be waiting some time. I'm not sure what is prompting people to wholly identify with one party, or another. Unless they are intimate friends, I can't see how anyone can KNOW what anyone involved in this is feeling, what they actually did or had done to them 22 years ago, or what their motivation might be for what they are doing right now. We can only speculate, and I think a more balanced, nuanced approach is the most sensible one.

    Screaming 'he's a paedophile!' repeatedly does not make it so.
    That's been my position since Dylan's letter came out. As I've said before in this thread, I have little doubt that she's telling the truth as she believes it happened. Woody denies there was ever any abuse. There's simply no way to know and the accusations are too severe and destructive for me to take a definite side. I just wish she hadn't resorted to calling out people by name in her letter in an attempt to shame them. Anything else I've said in this thread is pure speculation.
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    Re: Woody Allen - Pedophile?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    That is NOT true at all. Obviously you don't know about pedophilia. Look at the case of Jacey Dugard. There are MANY cases of pedophilia where there is only ONE victim.
    Then there are probably a lot of men who have been falsely convicted of it or falsely accused of it. But then I'm sure you are certain that there is no such thing as a man falsely accused of a sex crime.

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    Re: Woody Allen - Pedophile?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Dugard was not Garrido's only victim.
    She was for the time she was in captivity.

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    Re: Woody Allen - Pedophile?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    That's been my position since Dylan's letter came out. As I've said before in this thread, I have little doubt that she's telling the truth as she believes it happened. Woody denies there was ever any abuse. There's simply no way to know and the accusations are too severe and destructive for me to take a definite side. I just wish she hadn't resorted to calling out people by name in her letter in an attempt to shame them. Anything else I've said in this thread is pure speculation.
    Why? Why shouldn't she shame them? She has to live with the shame for the rest of her life. The people who are responsible, since they cannot be prosecuted, can share her shame as far as I'm concerned.

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    Re: Woody Allen - Pedophile?

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    Then there are probably a lot of men who have been falsely convicted of it or falsely accused of it. But then I'm sure you are certain that there is no such thing as a man falsely accused of a sex crime.
    Whatever. There are MANY cases where a victim (a child) was kidnapped and repeated tortured and abused. There are parents who have done this to their own child too. Take the case of the girl who was held captive in the basement of her own home right under her mother's nose by her own biological father where she was raped and actually had like 3 or 4 children from him.

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    Re: Woody Allen - Pedophile?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I think it is despicable to say "we can't accuse him" because there isn't enough evidence, yet to accuse the alleged "victim" of lying or just bringing it up to sell books.
    I never accused anyone of lying in this thread.

    As for why she's doing this so openly, this is after all a very private family matter or at least it should be, I was only speculating.
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    Re: Woody Allen - Pedophile?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    I never accused anyone of lying in this thread.

    As for why she's doing this so openly, this is after all a very private family matter or at least it should be, I was only speculating.
    Probably because she's angry? She knows he'll never be prosecuted. How would you feel?

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    Re: Woody Allen - Pedophile?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    You may be waiting some time. I'm not sure what is prompting people to wholly identify with one party, or another. Unless they are intimate friends, I can't see how anyone can KNOW what anyone involved in this is feeling, what they actually did or had done to them 22 years ago, or what their motivation might be for what they are doing right now. We can only speculate, and I think a more balanced, nuanced approach is the most sensible one.

    Screaming 'he's a paedophile!' repeatedly does not make it so.
    No, it doesn't.

    Have you skimmed the 1992 court document I posted on the preceding page, though, and what the French tutor or babysitter (can't remember which) saw Woody Allen doing? What the then-child Dylan said he was doing?

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    Re: Woody Allen - Pedophile?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Why? Why shouldn't she shame them? She has to live with the shame for the rest of her life. The people who are responsible, since they cannot be prosecuted, can share her shame as far as I'm concerned.
    Really? Scarlett Johanssen? Emma Stone? Diane Keaton? Alec Baldwin? LouisCK? Cate Blanchett? They're all responsible for what happened to her? All they've done is work with Allen. I thought her letter was really good, until that last paragraph. That was totally uncalled for and unnecessary.
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    Re: Woody Allen - Pedophile?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Probably because she's angry? She knows he'll never be prosecuted. How would you feel?

    I don't generally judge matters on how I would "feel". I'm a different person, with a different life experience. I know, I know... I sound like a man. You're not the first woman to say that to me.
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