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  • Pedophile

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  • Harmless Peepaw

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  • Legend & Inspiration

    8 8.25%
  • Creepy bastard, but not a pedophile

    17 17.53%
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    Re: Woody Allen - Pedophile?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    I think you're wearing blinders and refusing to accept the flip side evidence that questions what you want to believe.
    Besides the fact that there isn't any physical evidence to prove the allegations and the mother is a bit loony, all of the circumstances support Dylan IMO.

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    Re: Woody Allen - Pedophile?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    "According to them" of course. What man is going to admit to that? Of course they would lie. I'm not denying that there are some people who go crazy and might do things like this, but I don't believe it is common occurrence that a person is SOOO selfish that they would do this to their child and RUIN their child's life.
    The men I knew seemed to have good healthy relationships with their kids. There were no accusations until after the split. Also, the small amount of research I did (and provided quotes and links) shows that it happens fairly often. We know from the McMartin and other Satanic sex abuse cases of the 1980s that children can be convinced to make false claims. That is why I will give Woody Allen the benefit of the doubt until new facts emerge or he is convicted.
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    Re: Woody Allen - Pedophile?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    The men I knew seemed to have good healthy relationships with their kids. There were no accusations until after the split. Also, the small amount of research I did (and provided quotes and links) shows that it happens fairly often. We know from the McMartin and other Satanic sex abuse cases of the 1980s that children can be convinced to make false claims. That is why I will give Woody Allen the benefit of the doubt until new facts emerge or he is convicted.
    I just don't know how anyone can make such claims for certain. Of course it isn't going to be obvious a lot of times. That's fine if you want to give him the benefit of the doubt. I happen to believe what Dylan says. She says her mother didn't coach her and that it really happened. She even gives details. She feels shame and embarrassment and guilt, which are all very consistent with an abused child.

    Do you think she came out with this again to benefit herself in some way? Don't you think this is painful as hell for her to think about and talk about, especially with the publicity that she KNOWS it is going to receive? She has absolutely nothing to gain and everything to lose. I really believe her. The more I find out about the strange behaviors of Allen, the more it makes her story more plausible too.

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    Re: Woody Allen - Pedophile?

    Here's a link to 1992 court document. Read pages 11-12:

    http://www.vanityfair.com/dam/2014/0...stody-suit.pdf

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    So. 38 pages in and a ****load of new evidence has come to light. Right?

    That must be it. No way this is all speculation and emotionality. No way.

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    Re: Woody Allen - Pedophile?

    Here's an excellent, thoughtful and balanced take on the matter. It's about the only thing I've read that manages not to take sides, not condemn, but offer a convincing way of considering this case...

    Between labelling Woody Allen a child molester or his daughter a liar, I feel utterly stuck | Victoria Coren | Comment is free | The Observer
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    Re: Woody Allen - Pedophile?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Here's an excellent, thoughtful and balanced take on the matter. It's about the only thing I've read that manages not to take sides, not condemn, but offer a convincing way of considering this case...

    Between labelling Woody Allen a child molester or his daughter a liar, I feel utterly stuck | Victoria Coren | Comment is free | The Observer
    It's a good article, but it touches on something that's had me somewhat irritated since Dylan's letter was published. The fact that she attempts to guilt trip everybody into shunning not only the man, but his work as well. She calls out actors, actresses, his father's former lover and life-long friend, as well as the people who enjoy his work. She makes everyone a part of what should ultimately be a very private matter. I understand that she's been hurting her entire life. I understand that Woody's success and Hollywood's choice to not give the abuse allegations too much credit doesn't sit well with her. I'm just not too impressed with the sort of emotional blackmail she engages in and I refuse to respond to it, sorry as I am for what she claims happened to her.
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    Re: Woody Allen - Pedophile?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Woody Allen's adopted daughter accuses him of assaulting her at age 7 - CNN.com

    Mia Farrow's daughter resurrects Woody Allen molestation claim | Fox News


    So, what are your thoughts on Woody Allen?

    Is he a pedophile?

    Creepy bastard?

    Harmless Peepaw?

    Legendary director and actor?

    Should legal action be taken immediately?
    Granted that Allen is kind of creepy, the thing that makes me conclude that he's not a child abuser is that Dylan is supposedly his only victim. No other victims have come forward. Sorry, Woody haters, but real pedophiles don't just stop with one.

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    Re: Woody Allen - Pedophile?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    It's a good article, but it touches on something that's had me somewhat irritated since Dylan's letter was published. The fact that she attempts to guilt trip everybody into shunning not only the man, but his work as well. She calls out actors, actresses, his father's former lover and life-long friend, as well as the people who enjoy his work. She makes everyone a part of what should ultimately be a very private matter. I understand that she's been hurting her entire life. I understand that Woody's success and Hollywood's choice to not give the abuse allegations too much credit doesn't sit well with her. I'm just not too impressed with the sort of emotional blackmail she engages in and I refuse to respond to it, sorry as I am for what she claims happened to her.
    I tend to agree. I'd certainly say that I err more on the side of leaving the past in the past and in keeping private matters in the private arena. She sounds to be still completely traumatised by what she believes happened to her 22 years ago and she wants public recognition for that hurt, which she isn't going to get, and would do her little good if she got it. I think both parents share the responsibility for what is clearly a very, very messed-up individual, but none of these protracted, public recriminations and denunciations of everyone who will not agree with her are going to a) change anyone's minds about what happened, everyone whose opinion matters made their minds up years ago; and b) convince anyone (except ChrisL) that she and her mother are behaving remotely rationally.
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    Re: Woody Allen - Pedophile?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    I tend to agree. I'd certainly say that I err more on the side of leaving the past in the past and in keeping private matters in the private arena. She sounds to be still completely traumatised by what she believes happened to her 22 years ago and she wants public recognition for that hurt, which she isn't going to get, and would do her little good if she got it. I think both parents share the responsibility for what is clearly a very, very messed-up individual, but none of these protracted, public recriminations and denunciations of everyone who will not agree with her are going to a) change anyone's minds about what happened, everyone whose opinion matters made their minds up years ago; and b) convince anyone (except ChrisL) that she and her mother are behaving remotely rationally.
    Pretty much. And there's also the issue of why she's doing this now. Some people say she's got nothing to gain at all from this very public dirty laundry washing, but the truth is, as a writer, she actually gains a lot of publicity from it.
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