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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Because govt had nothing to do with it?
    They don't take advantage of utilities and various other forms of infrastructure? Churches never utilize police of fire protection? If they want to build themselves their own country club then fine, but if they are not a charitable institution, then why should they enjoy the tax advantages of one?
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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    They don't take advantage of utilities and various other forms of infrastructure? Churches never utilize police of fire protection? If they want to build themselves their own country club then fine, but if they are not a charitable institution, then why should they enjoy the tax advantages of one?
    You asked about building a bowling alley and paying taxes on the cost of that bowling alley. What do federal corporate taxes have to do with such a project?

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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    You asked about building a bowling alley and paying taxes on the cost of that bowling alley. What do federal corporate taxes have to do with such a project?
    My point is that if a church doesn't devote a significant amount of its income to charitable functions, then they should not be treated as a charity. Why should a church be able to pay its pastors six figure salaries and build what amounts to a country club for its members on tax free income?
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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    I believe the intent was to allow them to be tax free as long as they were apolitical.

    They aren't.

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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    My point is that if a church doesn't devote a significant amount of its income to charitable functions, then they should not be treated as a charity. Why should a church be able to pay its pastors six figure salaries and build what amounts to a country club for its members on tax free income?
    Several reasons

    1. Because it has a specially protected right to practice religion
    2. because organizations of people should not be taxed (its inefficient)
    3. because the law doesnt specify how much money you have to spend on charity, only the purpose of the organization
    4. because employees of these organizations DO pay taxes
    5. because the purpose of taxation is not to judge what people spend their money on

    I am for getting rid of this whole concept of tax exemption based on purpose, and replacing it with tax exemption for ALL organizations of people.

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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    Quote Originally Posted by avatar View Post
    I believe the intent was to allow them to be tax free as long as they were apolitical.

    They aren't.
    Actually the law says they cant be substantially invloved in political campaigns for office. They, and all 501c's can be as political as they want.

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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    I voted, No, because the power to tax IS the power to destroy.
    I think religious institutions should be treated like any other non profit organization.

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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    It would be a lot better if they came up in the open and competed like the rest. Better than rogue works.
    It could backfire if they came out in the open and competed like the rest.Churches are very numerous and many of them have a lot of money. If you did a google map search on a large city in the US and church it would look like one of those very complicated connect the dot pictures.
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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    It could backfire if they came out in the open and competed like the rest.Churches are very numerous and many of them have a lot of money. If you did a google map search on a large city in the US and church it would look like one of those very complicated connect the dot pictures.
    And they arent really competing. They dont sell or produce things generally. They exist off donations, and the donations are spent on prostelitizing, cemetaries, teachers, buildings, etc, tools they need to serve their religion. For the sake of argument, Im ignoring those megachurches that might very well just be money making schemes for the owners. Thats more the exception that the rule. Most 501c churches are local, exisiting almost entirely off donations, not revenue from selling things.

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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    religious Institutions do a lot of charity work....For example St Vincent De Paul which is supported by the Catholic Church therefore they should be exempt from income taxes.
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