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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    I don't think any non-profit should be taxed - but I wouldn't mind if churches were treated like any other non-profit organization.
    You'd have to show that these churches are non-profits, I think, when when you look at megachurches where the pastor has multiple houses, private planes, etc., I don't think you can call that a non-profit at all.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    You'd have to show that these churches are non-profits, I think, when when you look at megachurches where the pastor has multiple houses, private planes, etc., I don't think you can call that a non-profit at all.
    If they don't meet the standards of a non-profit then they aren't, plain and simple. I see no reason for churches to have some kind of special status in that regard.
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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    If they don't meet the standards of a non-profit then they aren't, plain and simple. I see no reason for churches to have some kind of special status in that regard.
    Yet that's not the way it works. All you have to do is attach "church" to your name and you probably qualify because lots of people think that any church, no matter how it operates, should be tax exempt.
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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Yet that's not the way it works. All you have to do is attach "church" to your name and you probably qualify because lots of people think that any church, no matter how it operates, should be tax exempt.
    That excercise of religion. Govt cant tax it.

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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    That excercise of religion. Govt cant tax it.
    Only because they've agreed not to tax it. There are rules for qualifying as a religious non-profit that many churches blatantly ignore, they ought to lose their non-profit status.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Only because they've agreed not to tax it. There are rules for qualifying as a religious non-profit that many churches blatantly ignore, they ought to lose their non-profit status.
    Im questioning the constitutionality. Congress shall make no law prohibiting the free excercise of religion. It could be argued that a tax does so.

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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Im questioning the constitutionality. Congress shall make no law prohibiting the free excercise of religion. It could be argued that a tax does so.
    No it can't. Nobody is stopping religion from operating how it wishes, but so long as religion uses public services, they ought to be obligated to pay for them, just like everyone else. Otherwise, the government is showing preferential treatment to religion, which is also unconstitutional.
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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    Churches should not be taxed because constitutionally, we have a separation between church and state. That doesn't just mean keep the church out of public areas like courthouses and such, it also means keep the state out of the church.

    Also, churches should not be censored. Meaning, they should be politically active if they choose.

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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    I think they are already doing that but in a rogue way with alternative channels.
    True but you do not see no billboards in predominantly catholic areas with the Pope's Picture saying "Nancy Pelosi is a phony catholic, a good catholic doesn't ignore their catholic values" or a commercial with Kenneth Copeland in it saying God wants you to vote for a real christian vote for this guy".
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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Churches should not be taxed because constitutionally, we have a separation between church and state. That doesn't just mean keep the church out of public areas like courthouses and such, it also means keep the state out of the church.

    Also, churches should not be censored. Meaning, they should be politically active if they choose.
    Then we aren't keeping church out of the state, as you already agreed we should. If a church wants to be politically active, let them pay their entry fee like everyone else.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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