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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Definitely taxed. They are a private organization that makes profits. The catholic CEO, for instance, lives in a big palace in the center of Rome. Just because they also make charitable contributions doesn't mean they don't also make profits. That's like saying "Well, Goldman-Sachs donated money to charity this year, so their entire organization should be tax free."

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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    Yes, we should. I'm fine with giving them the same tax breaks anyone else gets for charitable work, but I don't see why everything else shouldn't be taxed.
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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Most of them do. They have employees and CEOs that make a very substantial amount of cash, and a lot of the profits go back into the organization. Take charities like the Cancer Fund of America who takes in 81 million but only pays out 5% to the cause they allegedly support.

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    I mean just look at this guy:



    He's sitting on a golden throne and has more bling than a rapper.
    Clearly you are unhappy with what the definition of a non-profit is: Nonprofit organization - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Also interesting that "this guy" who is no longer Pope and his organization aren't on your list. Your message is very disjoint and difficult to understand. Could you express it more succinctly?
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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Depends on how you define profit.
    My definition is irrelevant, the government has handled that.

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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    Question: Is there any law that explicitly states that religious institutions should be tax-exempt? Or do churches fall under the category of things that are tax-exempt? I'm asking this because right now my only reason for wanting to tax churches is "Organised religion is stupid so taxing it would help diminish its power". And objectively, that's an awful reason.

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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    Clearly you are unhappy with what the definition of a non-profit is: Nonprofit organization - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Also interesting that "this guy" who is no longer Pope and his organization aren't on your list. Your message is very disjoint and difficult to understand. Could you express it more succinctly?
    Yes, I am, because non-profit absolutely, positively can be heavily for-profit. Giving a tiny amount of your income away does not make you a non-profit.

    And seriously? You think I didn't know he wasn't the pope? I just googled pope and took the gaudiest looking one I saw. I thought surely the readers could understand it was the pope in general and not that specific pope, but I guess I completely and totally overestimated you.

    Also, the list I posted was about random charities. The catholic church keeps their total income highly secretive, because for some reason they're special while the rest of us have to file taxes and report income.
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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    Quote Originally Posted by point1percent View Post
    Taxing the rich is a common theme these days, but there is no talk of taxing religion. Why is that? The Catholic Church has a combined wealth that is near impossible to calculate, but rest assured it makes Bill Gates look like just another poor guy. They pay no taxes but rake in billions. Where does all that money go? Do you really think it is making its way back to the people, especially the poor? And why does God need money? Surely anyone who can create a universe doesn't need money. Seems like organized religion is a goldmine that could be used to save the poor and the middle class.
    Intermingling church and state would not be a good idea.

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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Yes, I am, because non-profit absolutely, positively can be heavily for-profit. Giving a tiny amount of your income away does not make you a non-profit.

    And seriously? You think I didn't know he wasn't the pope? I just googled pope and took the gaudiest looking one I saw. I thought surely the readers could understand it was the pope in general and not that specific pope, but I guess I completely and totally overestimated you.

    Also, the list I posted was about random charities. The catholic church keeps their total income highly secretive, because for some reason they're special while the rest of us have to file taxes and report income.
    So what percent to give away is acceptable to you.

    I have no idea whether you know who is Pope and who isn't Pope.

    I believe that each diocese is I incorporated as it's own entity. I seriously doubt that the Catholic Church takes in billions in income. That doesn't mean that it doesn't have billions in assets but the subject is income tax.

    Do you think that assets should be taxed?
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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    Absolutely they should be taxed. Lots of churches are speaking out about politics, something that's a no-no. If they don't want to be taxed on their charitable work, I'm fine with that, but anything that pays for the building and the priesthood and all of that should be taxed.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    The only time I believe Churches should be taxed is when they derive income from something that is in direct competition with the private sector. Specifically one city I used to live in had a huge church with a huge convention center system, catering etc. The Church paid no taxes on any level. The competition in the private sector had to pay significant taxes on several levels.
    Bingo! When a religious entity reaches the point where it has it's own world television station and it's own Starbucks, hotel and the religious leader is flying first class or has his own airplane; when a religious entity contributes to or participates in the purchase of a public official tax 'em.










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