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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    Quote Originally Posted by point1percent View Post
    Taxing the rich is a common theme these days, but there is no talk of taxing religion. Why is that? The Catholic Church has a combined wealth that is near impossible to calculate, but rest assured it makes Bill Gates look like just another poor guy. They pay no taxes but rake in billions. Where does all that money go? Do you really think it is making its way back to the people, especially the poor? And why does God need money? Surely anyone who can create a universe doesn't need money. Seems like organized religion is a goldmine that could be used to save the poor and the middle class.
    I don't have a problem with it. That way Churches would be free to become politically active. The reason they at least aren't supposed to now is being non-political is a condition of tax exemption.
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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Most of them do. They have employees and CEOs that make a very substantial amount of cash, and a lot of the profits go back into the organization. Take charities like the Cancer Fund of America who takes in 81 million but only pays out 5% to the cause they allegedly support.

    America's Worst Charities

    I mean just look at this guy:



    He's sitting on a golden throne and has more bling than a rapper.
    That's an interesting site. I think I'm going to bookmark it. BTW: Here's a close figure for the US Catholic Church: US Catholic Church a $170 billion business
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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    I am inclined to tax all organizations. The lines between profits and non-profits are blurred and one of the best ways to make a ton of money is to start a non[profit. The name is a misnomer. And all of the IRS 501-c-3 or whatever codes that allow tax exemptions give a powerful tools to corrupt governments to misuse power, as we have seen. Not only should churches be taxed but unions, think-tanks, non-profits, etc. should be taxed. The government should not be subsidizing this stuff by granting tax exemptions.

    It was probably a great idea but it is so abused by this point.

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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    I'd prefer to have it as easy a possible for charities to be up and running. I think it'd be better for organisations with tax exemption to make their expenditure public and easily accessible, and let people decide if they deserve donations or not, than to make a complicated system than could discourage honest charities from being established.
    Why not make it that all charitable money given out is tax free and that which is kept as profits is taxed? That would better motivate the organizations to give more to charity. As of now, people who run charities tend to be extremely rich, or become extremely rich off it, while only actually donating a few % to anyone in need.
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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    Do you feel that all non-profits make profits?
    Depends on how you define profit.
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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    People who derive their pay from charitable orginization a should have that income taxed like anything else.

    The only thing that shouldn't be taxed are funds ACTUALY being used for charity.

    As for churches...and property taxes...I'm not sure they could afford them. Take the Catholic Church. Their properties (in Europe anyway) are priceless. How do you assess the value in order for it to be taxed?
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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    How about a progressive tax structure on income based on percentage of funds used for charity.

    In other words, take Salvation Army. CEO makes millions per year. If they use less than 10% of the funds they take in on charity, that that CEOs pay at 60%. If they use more than 40% of their income for charity, his income tax goes down to 25%.


    Put in a few steps, of course, but you get the idea.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    Tax them like any business/corporation.

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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    Quote Originally Posted by point1percent View Post
    Taxing the rich is a common theme these days, but there is no talk of taxing religion. Why is that? The Catholic Church has a combined wealth that is near impossible to calculate, but rest assured it makes Bill Gates look like just another poor guy. They pay no taxes but rake in billions. Where does all that money go? Do you really think it is making its way back to the people, especially the poor? And why does God need money? Surely anyone who can create a universe doesn't need money.
    The power to tax is the power to control. Look at all the exercise that government makes of this power to control individuals and companies through taxation.

    In order to protect religious freedom, religions must not be subject to this kind of control from the government.


    Quote Originally Posted by point1percent View Post
    Seems like organized religion is a goldmine that could be used to save the poor and the middle class.
    Your “Lean” says “Very Conservative”, but there's nothing conservative about this. The idea that any organizations money should be seen as “a goldmine” that government can or should use “to save the poor and the middle class”, or for any other alleged good that government claims to do, is very much the opposite of anything for which any conservative would stand. For that matter, so is your apparent desire to put churches under control of the government.
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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    What fraud takes place with churches asking for tithes?
    They do so on the basis that God exists.

    They do so on the basis that your soul is saved by this.

    They do so the basis that they represent the God approved religion.

    They have no evidence for any of this so that makes it fraud.

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