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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    No one is forced to donate to a church, if people don't want to be "shystered" then they shouldn't donate.
    That all depends on how one chooses to look at it; the church gets a benefit from public roads, police and fire services, yet pays no taxes to help support them, thus they are being supported by all that are forced to pay such taxation - whether they belong to that, or any, church.
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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    No one is forced to donate to a church, if people don't want to be "shystered" then they shouldn't donate.
    Nobody is forced to buy into a pyramid selling scheme. They are still illegal. That's why it's called fraud rather than theft.

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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Definitely taxed. They are a private organization that makes profits. The catholic CEO, for instance, lives in a big palace in the center of Rome. Just because they also make charitable contributions doesn't mean they don't also make profits. That's like saying "Well, Goldman-Sachs donated money to charity this year, so their entire organization should be tax free."

    We're all paying taxes, they should too. Fair is fair.
    Do you feel that all non-profits make profits?
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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    That all depends on how one chooses to look at it; the church gets a benefit from public roads, police and fire services, yet pays no taxes to help support them, thus they are being supported by all that are forced to pay such taxation - whether they belong to that, or any, church.
    The use of the roads with a church would come from the congregation, who do pay tax. The cost of police and fire could come from the taxes of the burglar or arsonist.

    Why should charities be taxed? Individuals involved are still taxed, and you could argue the benefits from charities outweighs the costs.
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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    Do you feel that all non-profits make profits?
    Most of them do. They have employees and CEOs that make a very substantial amount of cash, and a lot of the profits go back into the organization. Take charities like the Cancer Fund of America who takes in 81 million but only pays out 5% to the cause they allegedly support.

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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim the plumber View Post
    Nobody is forced to buy into a pyramid selling scheme. They are still illegal. That's why it's called fraud rather than theft.
    What fraud takes place with churches asking for tithes?
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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    The use of the roads with a church would come from the congregation, who do pay tax. The cost of police and fire could come from the taxes of the burglar or arsonist.

    Why should charities be taxed? Individuals involved are still taxed, and you could argue the benefits from charities outweighs the costs.
    So are individuals not involved. Are you advocating that all charitable organizations not pay any taxes - or only religious charities?
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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    So are individuals not involved. Are you advocating that all charitable organizations not pay any taxes - or only religious charities?
    Statistics say 40% of Americans attend church weekly, I'm sure their taxes more than cover any costs the churches place on society. I'm saying all charities should be tax exempt. I don't believe in automatic tax exemption for all religious organisations, but if they act as a charity, then they should be exempt.
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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Charities should not be taxed, just as donations to charity shouldn't be taxed. Religious institutions should be exempt from taxation as long as they do charitable work.
    I do not mind them not paying taxes on their charitable contributions, but absolutely no taxation for everything because some organizations make some charitable contributions is ludicrous IMO. They should have to report their charitable contributions, as well as be allowed reasonable amounts of overhead related to these charitable expenditures. Otherwise income gained for a "church" that is not directed towards charity and charitable expenditures should be taxed.

    * I use quotations around "church" thinking of megachurches, tv evangelists, prosperity churches and the like - those who make millions and live an opulent lifestyle riding the gullibility gravy train
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    Re: Should we tax religious institutions?

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    I do not mind them not paying taxes on their charitable contributions, but absolutely no taxation for everything because some organizations make some charitable contributions is ludicrous IMO. They should have to report their charitable contributions, as well as be allowed reasonable amounts of overhead related to these charitable expenditures. Otherwise income gained for a "church" that is not directed towards charity and charitable expenditures should be taxed.
    I'd prefer to have it as easy a possible for charities to be up and running. I think it'd be better for organisations with tax exemption to make their expenditure public and easily accessible, and let people decide if they deserve donations or not, than to make a complicated system than could discourage honest charities from being established.
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