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Jesse Ventura 2016

Sounds like the best idea I have heard all day.
Hard to argue this point.
Carrie Anne Moss was similarly fetching in "Red Planet"......actually, she's fetching in all her movies.:)
Hey, let's start a new thread...."Sci-fi Erotica".......
 
I don't think he wants it. He's said that he'll run if he's drafted, but he isn't going to put any effort into getting on the ballot.

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Geez, candidates raise and spend 100's of millions, spend years planning and plotting.....and Jesse would accept a draft?
Lazy much?
I don't wanna work for it, but I'll courageously accept the presidency.
He sounds like Sarah Palin.
 
Dennis Rodman has a better chance of being elected President than Jesse Ventura. Oh wait - the current guy in the White House has put black candidates for the Presidency back 200 years - never mind.

How many years back did Jimmy Carter put white candidates? I mean, if we're judging by race...
 
How many years back did Jimmy Carter put white candidates? I mean, if we're judging by race...

See, Jimmy Carter wasn't the first idiot southerner to be elected President, so he wasn't their standard bearer. Obama, however, was the first black man elected President and the one all blacks will be judged against going forward, until the next one comes along. It's just a fact of life. It's no different than Geraldine Ferraro setting back female candidates for years to come and Sarah Palin doing the same. Personally, I think Hillary Clinton's gender worked against her back in 2007/8 - we'll see if it actually works against her in 2016, if she chooses to run, and if the media doesn't turn on her again.
 
Is this guy related to Ice Ventura? ;)
 
See, Jimmy Carter wasn't the first idiot southerner to be elected President, so he wasn't their standard bearer. Obama, however, was the first black man elected President and the one all blacks will be judged against going forward, until the next one comes along. It's just a fact of life. It's no different than Geraldine Ferraro setting back female candidates for years to come and Sarah Palin doing the same. Personally, I think Hillary Clinton's gender worked against her back in 2007/8 - we'll see if it actually works against her in 2016, if she chooses to run, and if the media doesn't turn on her again.

I prefer to judge the candidates individually. Ferraro and Palin weren't the sharpest tools in the shed. Hillary's biggest problem in '08 was that she ran on "inevitability" and that strategy backfired. Just like when a football team looks past the team they're playing, they lose.
 
See, Jimmy Carter wasn't the first idiot southerner to be elected President, so he wasn't their standard bearer. Obama, however, was the first black man elected President and the one all blacks will be judged against going forward, until the next one comes along. It's just a fact of life. It's no different than Geraldine Ferraro setting back female candidates for years to come and Sarah Palin doing the same. Personally, I think Hillary Clinton's gender worked against her back in 2007/8 - we'll see if it actually works against her in 2016, if she chooses to run, and if the media doesn't turn on her again.

IMO Obama has been no worse or better than Bush II. In fact they have governed about the same. With as big a government we have, it is probably impossible to do any major changes outside tinkering around the edges. One can spout rhetoric all day and all night and have the majority believe them, but in actually changing things run by non-elected bureaucrats who were there before a new president arrives and will be there long after he is gone, government is going to do what government is going to do. Grow and enhance power over the individual.
 
Is this guy related to Ice Ventura? ;)

It's Ace, Ace Ventura. And yes, they're definitely related, but not genetically. They're of a kind we generally refer to as, and this is a scientific term, nuts.
 
Jesse Ventura's coalition: left-leaning libertarian, left-wing nutters, conspiracy theorists, internet junkies.

Thus: Should not run.
 
Interesting. I thought Ventura crowd were uberuber conservatives. Are they really liberal?
Jesse Ventura's coalition: left-leaning libertarian, left-wing nutters, conspiracy theorists, internet junkies.

Thus: Should not run.
 
I heard that Jesse moved to Parts Unknown: "A place where everyone wears a mask and there is not one scale in town."
 
It's Ace, Ace Ventura. And yes, they're definitely related, but not genetically. They're of a kind we generally refer to as, and this is a scientific term, nuts.

Ah, yes, it was Ace Ventura. :lol:
Thanks for the correction. :thumbs:
 
Interesting. I thought Ventura crowd were uberuber conservatives. Are they really liberal?

Pro-choice
Populist economics (a bit more left-wing, but some popularity among the Paulite crowd)
Pro-Civil Union for homosexuals (this was when that was a solidly liberal position for electoral politics)
Critical of strong-arm criminal punishment
Anti-war on drugs
Anti-war on terrorism
Anti-public school choice, pro-public school increase in funding
Anti-creationism in the schools
Acknowledges global warming, pro-alternative energy and internal development
Not isolationist foreign policy, but immensely critical of American policy toward Cuba and others..again, big skeptic with regard to the war on terror
Populist, democratic governmental reform
Somewhat in the middle with healthcare
More of a skeptic of anti-illegal immigrant lobbyists
Solidly pro-union, pro-agricultural subsidies
In regard to many issues, more libertarian (welfare state, etc.)
 
Thanks for that, really. I guess the only reason I think he is crazy is those CT shows he does. Becasue except the Prochoice thing, I really either dont disagree with those points or not storngly. Interesting. I will read more about him. Thanks for getting me started.
Pro-choice
Populist economics (a bit more left-wing, but some popularity among the Paulite crowd)
Pro-Civil Union for homosexuals (this was when that was a solidly liberal position for electoral politics)
Critical of strong-arm criminal punishment
Anti-war on drugs
Anti-war on terrorism
Anti-public school choice, pro-public school increase in funding
Anti-creationism in the schools
Acknowledges global warming, pro-alternative energy and internal development
Not isolationist foreign policy, but immensely critical of American policy toward Cuba and others..again, big skeptic with regard to the war on terror
Populist, democratic governmental reform
Somewhat in the middle with healthcare
More of a skeptic of anti-illegal immigrant lobbyists
Solidly pro-union, pro-agricultural subsidies
In regard to many issues, more libertarian (welfare state, etc.)
 
Can an Independent win the 2016 Presidential Election?

Having worked for Ross Perot, an independent candidate for president here is the criteria for an independent to win the White House.
1. Must be charismatic
2. Must have a message that resonates with the people that the two major parties are not addressing or it seems they are not addressing
3. Must have a vision where he wants to lead America
4. Must have common sense solutions to problems that the two major parties are not attempting to solve or are putting off
5. Must be independently wealthy.
A. This is due to the two existing parties write all election laws as a mutual protection act. The independent candidate will need to expand millions to get on the ballot by challenging a lot of these laws state by state.
B. The independent candidate will need to pay petitioners to get the required signatures for ballot access as described by the different laws of all the states.
C. Due to the fact that corporations, lobbyists, Wall Street firms, super pacs and pacs, huge money individuals etc. who all donate to the campaigns of the two major parties the independent candidate will not have access to he will have expand a huge amount of his own money to get his own message out.
6. There has to be a feeling among the electorate that the two major parties are out for themselves and not America. The electorate needs to be disgusted with both major parties.
 
It's Ace, Ace Ventura. And yes, they're definitely related, but not genetically. They're of a kind we generally refer to as, and this is a scientific term, nuts.

I admit I've heard about this guy but never seen him until now.



Actually I kinda like him. :)
 
I admit I've heard about this guy but never seen him until now.



Actually I kinda like him. :)


He's a good guy. He's not a politically viable personality because he's a good guy. He's a little nuts, but in viewing our culture, it's understandable.
 
Could be worse ... could be this guy

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No I don't think he'd have a chance. And I would not vote for him (the conspiracy theory stuff is just too far out there, but there are also other things I don't agree with him about).

Now, I'd vote for Betty White (White Power)(and no, I don't think she would ever seriously run for President although she likely has some serious backing now, even at her age). I think watching her on the Late, Late Show in 2012 was the only time I've ever caught any part of that show and it was just plain hilarious.
 
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