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    Re: My immigration reform plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire X View Post
    1) Every illegal immigrant in the US will fill out a piece of paperwork giving their name, DOB, etc.

    2) Upon filling out the paperwork, they will be automatically enrolled in the current line to become a US citizen, and they will be granted permanent legal status until they become US citizens (providing they commit no serious felonies)

    3) There will be no new citizenship line created; the current illegals will be sent to the back of the current line to become a US citizen. If this line needs to be sped up, it will be sped up. However, the illegals do not need to go back to their home country or anything; they just need to fill out a piece of paperwork.

    4) If the INS finds them and finds out they haven't filled out the paperwork, they will be given the paperwork and instructed to fill it out. No one will be deported for filling out the paperwork.
    Deporting the illegals will be way too expensive. BUT, the only way I would agree to this is if they have no criminal record in their home country, they pay a fine for coming here illegally and they then pay their fair share of taxes. They also can't use ANY public tax money to support themselves... including healthcare, until they have been paying taxes for at least a year. And, MOST IMPORTANTLY, SECURE THE BORDER so that no more illegals can cross... ever again. Every other country in the world has a secure border. There is no reason that we can't have one too. I am so tired of liberals trying to tell us it's wrong to secure it. The moment we grant any kind of amnesty, there will be a mad rush across the border again. Thus exasperating the problem. WE CAN'T AFFORD IT.

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    Re: My immigration reform plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire X View Post
    1) Every illegal immigrant in the US will fill out a piece of paperwork giving their name, DOB, etc.

    2) Upon filling out the paperwork, they will be automatically enrolled in the current line to become a US citizen, and they will be granted permanent legal status until they become US citizens (providing they commit no serious felonies)

    3) There will be no new citizenship line created; the current illegals will be sent to the back of the current line to become a US citizen. If this line needs to be sped up, it will be sped up. However, the illegals do not need to go back to their home country or anything; they just need to fill out a piece of paperwork.

    4) If the INS finds them and finds out they haven't filled out the paperwork, they will be given the paperwork and instructed to fill it out. No one will be deported for filling out the paperwork.
    Wow, amnesty plus an automatic path to citizenship for anyone who can cross a border, into perpetuity. That won't destroy our social safety net by flooding it with new recipients or send already sky-high low-income-demographic unemployment rates rocketing upwards or anything.

    Good idea. Next we should save a bunch of money by dis-arming the DOD and instead instructing the State Department to enact foreign policy by asking people "pretty please." No one can resist a Pretty Please.

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    Re: My immigration reform plan

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    Any illegal immigration plan that doesn't include moats, crocodiles, and a modern day take on Einsatzgruppen or the KZ system is weak sauce.
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    Re: My immigration reform plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire X View Post
    The 12+ million illegals currently in the US will never be deported. Many of you are going to have to give up this fantasy where the government hunts down 12 million people and kicks them out of the country. The illegals are here to stay, and there is nothing you can do about it.
    Your plan will never get support of the American people to pass. You are going it have to give up this fantasy where the government just says "hey, no problem, welcome here. **** those guys who did it right" and let's people in.

    Now that we're done just carte Blanche declaring things a "fantasy", let's move onto your strawman.

    I never suggested we need to deport 12 mil people. I think through a combination of:

    1) greater focus on enforcement on employers with stiffer penalties
    2) legal action against states/cities whose laws allow aid and abet those who are here breaking our laws to remove the institutional help for them in some areas
    3) deportation of any found through routine administration of the law
    4) strengthened border security and infrastructure
    5) reworked system of various temporary visas
    6) streamlined legal immigration process

    Will help deport, drive away, and keep away illegal immigrants to a higher degree than currently. At which point, once these processes are firmly in place and clearly not changing, then and only then would I perhaps begin to look at methods for dealing with some who have managed to stay here by otherwise being law abiding citizens.

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    I think we could create some form of a path to citizenship thru registration of the current illegals. But I'd definitely strengthen the border and use whatever means necessary to cripple the Cartels responsible for trafficking.
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    Re: My immigration reform plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire X View Post
    1) Every illegal immigrant in the US will fill out a piece of paperwork giving their name, DOB, etc.

    2) Upon filling out the paperwork, they will be automatically enrolled in the current line to become a US citizen, and they will be granted permanent legal status until they become US citizens (providing they commit no serious felonies)

    3) There will be no new citizenship line created; the current illegals will be sent to the back of the current line to become a US citizen. If this line needs to be sped up, it will be sped up. However, the illegals do not need to go back to their home country or anything; they just need to fill out a piece of paperwork.

    4) If the INS finds them and finds out they haven't filled out the paperwork, they will be given the paperwork and instructed to fill it out. No one will be deported for filling out the paperwork.
    My plan:
    ~Close the border.
    ~Issue devastating business-ending life-ruining civil and criminal penalties to anyone who hires even 1 illegal for a single day.
    ~Reform the current line to verify the immigrant is:
    • In the country legally;
    • Have the means to sustain themselves economically;
    • Not destined to be burdens on society;
    • Of economic and social benefit to society;
    • Of good character and have no criminal records;
    • And contributors to the general well-being of the nation.
    • Ineligible to vote for 25 years after attaining citizenship.

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    Re: My immigration reform plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Heebie Jeebie View Post
    I don't think a single way can be found that is fair or right.

    I think for people who were brought here at a young age there should be allowances made. It's not like a 4 year old has any say in where their parents take them or has any sort of 'home' to go back to. They may have spent the majority of their lives here and understandably would consider themselves from here.

    For those who came when they were adults a different system needs to be devised. They knew what they were doing was wrong. I can see a relatively stiff penalty or even deportation being done.
    Nope, deport all illegals regardless.

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    Re: My immigration reform plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Nope, deport all illegals regardless.
    Ain't gomma happen.


    And where would you send kid that was brought here at age one and grew up here? Just drop them over the border into country where they can't even speak the language and say good luck?
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    Re: My immigration reform plan

    Loo k at the sig.

    USA is full. No immigration at all untill average wage is $20 hr.
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    Re: My immigration reform plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Heebie Jeebie View Post
    Ain't gomma happen.


    And where would you send kid that was brought here at age one and grew up here? Just drop them over the border into country where they can't even speak the language and say good luck?
    Yes.

    They are not citizens. They have no right to be here.

    Do you think we are going to tolerate them working and US citizens not?
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