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Should Amanda Knox Be Extradited to Prison in Italy?

Should Amanda Knox Be Extradited to Prison in Italy?

  • Yes, in accordance with the US-Italy extradition treaty.

    Votes: 18 33.3%
  • Yes, she should be imprisoned somewhere, but maybe in the US.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No, Americans shouldn't be extradited to foreign nations even if they're guilty.

    Votes: 6 11.1%
  • No, she isn't guilty.

    Votes: 30 55.6%

  • Total voters
    54

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We've all heard the story; I'm sure I don't need to fill you in.

American student Amanda Knox has, after appeal, been convicted of the murder of a British student in Italy along with her Italian boyfriend.

Amanda Knox has been with her family in Seattle during the trial, but now Italy is going to make an extradition request and put Knox in prison for the murder.

What are your thoughts on the subject?
 
We've all heard the story; I'm sure I don't need to fill you in.

American student Amanda Knox has, after appeal, been convicted of the murder of a British student in Italy along with her Italian boyfriend.

Amanda Knox has been with her family in Seattle during the trial, but now Italy is going to make an extradition request and put Knox in prison for the murder.

What are your thoughts on the subject?

Tell Italy to stick their extradition request where the light don't shine and if Italy makes any attempt to grab the girl, send in a kill team to waste any Italian involved in such activity
 
No. Considering the Double Jeopardy issue she should not be extradited to Italy. However, if she leaves the US and is arrested elsewhere on the warrant she should not get US assistance.

This whole issue shows why no intelligent American ever leaves thus country to begin with.
 
We've all heard the story; I'm sure I don't need to fill you in.

American student Amanda Knox has, after appeal, been convicted of the murder of a British student in Italy along with her Italian boyfriend.

Amanda Knox has been with her family in Seattle during the trial, but now Italy is going to make an extradition request and put Knox in prison for the murder.

What are your thoughts on the subject?

Legally speaking, she's innocent, as she was found innocent by a court of law. Now, that may not be the case in Italy, but we have a no double-jeopardy policy in the US. In general, we should not be extraditing our citizens for things that our country doesn't consider crimes.

For those that think she should be extradited, should a foreign government that has acquitted an American citizen have the right to call that person back for the rest of their life? Maybe show up 20 years from now and decide to reopen the case and demand extradition?
 
Legally speaking, she's innocent, as she was found innocent by a court of law. Now, that may not be the case in Italy, but we have a no double-jeopardy policy in the US. In general, we should not be extraditing our citizens for things that our country doesn't consider crimes.

For those that think she should be extradited, should a foreign government that has acquitted an American citizen have the right to call that person back for the rest of their life? Maybe show up 20 years from now and decide to reopen the case and demand extradition?

none of the people whining about Knox have any legal training or understand the issues. Its all about hating America
 
Btw anonymous polls suck
 
America stricktly refuses most extraditions into any country in the world and Europe refuses most of extraditions into the US

So either way, before specific cases can be debated, a common understanding would have to be found by both regions.

And that is not likely to happen.
 
From what I understand, Canada will not extradite someone back to the US if they face the
Death penalty, because it violates their laws.
Allowing Italy to extradite Amanda Knox would violate our laws against Double Jeopardy.
 
I'm not a legal expert, and I'm not that familiar with all the details of the case. But in general, I think the US shouldn't allow a US citizen to be extradited if they wouldn't do jail time for the same crime here in the US. Whether because what they were convicted for isn't illegal here, or because they process they were convicted under is very different from our own legal process.
 
No she shouldn't and it isn't because I think she is innocent or guilty, but rather because we have double jeopardy. Countries like Canada and some European countries will not extradite people to the States because of the death penalty implication for crimes. Why should we have to ignore a constitutional right like double jeopardy, when other countries do not ignore their laws?
 
Whether she's guilty or not, the US should just tell them to **** off. They had their chance and they blew it. That's their problem.

Besides, she's smokin'.

Free Foxy!
 
Technically, there is no double jeopardy as the first trial is still going on. Under the Italian system, which allows for many appeals, this is just one on-going case/trial. The trial ended with a guilty verdict, which was overturned on first appeal and overturned again on second appeal. The final appeal will be brought to the Corte di Cassazione, kind of like the Italian version of the Supreme Court. Italy will not ask for Amanda's extradition until the Corte di Cassazione's final ruling.
 
I think any 'final ruling' will be made by Italian corporations who have no desire to jeapordise their US interests.
 
We've all heard the story; I'm sure I don't need to fill you in.

American student Amanda Knox has, after appeal, been convicted of the murder of a British student in Italy along with her Italian boyfriend.

Amanda Knox has been with her family in Seattle during the trial, but now Italy is going to make an extradition request and put Knox in prison for the murder.

What are your thoughts on the subject?




She's been found guilty and she should do the time.
 
If the Italians have honored their side of the extradition treaty, there may not be much of a choice.

She's been found guilty and she should do the time.

Putting aside whether the Italian justice system passes muster (by my notions it doesn't), the whole process was marred from the outset by questionable police action (undertaken to compensate for a lack of objective evidence). Even the best justice systems can be sabotaged by questionable police action.
 
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She's been found guilty and she should do the time.

not exactly, countries do not have to extradict when doing so would violate their own civil protections.

for instance, if we convicted an italian in absentia of aggravated first degree murder and sentenced him to death, Italy wouldn't just hand him over unless the death sentence was commuted. Canada won't extradict a capital murderer to the United States unless prosecutors agree not to seek the death penalty. and Mexico won't extradict unless we agree not to sentence to life in prison without parole.

so I think we can refuse to hand over someone when doing so violates double jeopardy.

for the record, I have no problem with Knox's first conviction. however after an Italian court rendered an judgement of acquittal following retrial, I think it would be gross violation of her constitutional rights for her government to allow her to serve a sentence after having been found guilty twice.... and not guilty once.
 
not exactly, countries do not have to extradict when doing so would violate their own civil protections.

for instance, if we convicted an italian in absentia of aggravated first degree murder and sentenced him to death, Italy wouldn't just hand him over unless the death sentence was commuted. Canada won't extradict a capital murderer to the United States unless prosecutors agree not to seek the death penalty. and Mexico won't extradict unless we agree not to sentence to life in prison without parole.

so I think we can refuse to hand over someone when doing so violates double jeopardy.
for the record, I have no problem with Knox's first conviction. however after an Italian court rendered an judgement of acquittal following retrial, I think it would be gross violation of her constitutional rights for her government to allow her to serve a sentence after having been found guilty twice.... and not guilty once.




You are entitled to your opinion, but someone else is going to decide what happens in this case.
 
Technically, there is no double jeopardy as the first trial is still going on. Under the Italian system, which allows for many appeals, this is just one on-going case/trial. The trial ended with a guilty verdict, which was overturned on first appeal and overturned again on second appeal. The final appeal will be brought to the Corte di Cassazione, kind of like the Italian version of the Supreme Court. Italy will not ask for Amanda's extradition until the Corte di Cassazione's final ruling.

Yeah...you could be right.

Well, the way I understand it is...when the case went before the appellate court, it didn't use all of the possible evidence submitted by the Prosecutor, which included some of the DNA evidence. So actually it heard the case with "less evidence" than was presented in the criminal trial. The appellate court then declare the verdict NOT GUILTY. The prosecution asked the S.C. to review the case. The S.C. said that the appellate court didn't do its job properly and to rehear the case. So in essence, that nullified the appellate court's ruling of NOT GUILTY.

Thus, when the case was handed back to the appellate court, the evidence not admitted in the first hearing was heard...and the verdict was changed to GUILTY. The attorney for Knox appealed to case to go back to the S.C.

Consequently...there may not be a double jeopardy situation going on. ?????? But I could be totally wrong.
 
No! But not because of her citizenship or possible guilt, but because legally you should get only one bite of the apple. I don't like civil cases for this reason after someone has been tried criminally and found, not guilty.
 
No! But not because of her citizenship or possible guilt, but because legally you should get only one bite of the apple.
I don't like civil cases for this reason after someone has been tried criminally and found, not guilty.




I hope that Miss Knox likes Italian food because that's probably what they serve in Italian prisons.
 
I voted no, that she wasn't guilty, but in truth given the keystone cops nature of the Italian Justice system, how would we ever know that she was guilty or not? I'd have liked to have seen another option: No, she shouldn't be extradited because the Italian legal process is a frickin' joke.
 
I hope that Miss Knox likes Italian food because that's probably what they serve in Italian prisons.

She ain't there yet. ;)

Hey, if she did it I think it's utterly disgusting but we can't change how things work for the sake of suspicion.
 
I voted no, that she wasn't guilty, but in truth given the keystone cops nature of the Italian Justice system, how would we ever know that she was guilty or not? I'd have liked to have seen another option: No, she shouldn't be extradited because the Italian legal process is a frickin' joke.

Well, she was guilty of something, but odds are it was nothing more severe than having her head up her ass.
 
We've all heard the story; I'm sure I don't need to fill you in.

American student Amanda Knox has, after appeal, been convicted of the murder of a British student in Italy along with her Italian boyfriend.

Amanda Knox has been with her family in Seattle during the trial, but now Italy is going to make an extradition request and put Knox in prison for the murder.

What are your thoughts on the subject?

In America you only get one shot to prove someone is guilty and if that conviction is overturned then too bad you do not get another shot to prove that person is guilty of that crime.Our country should aid other countries in jailing our citizens for things that are not a crime and or unconstitutional over in the US. I would like to see the option no she should be extradited because that would be a violation of her 5th amendment rights.




No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
 
Yeah...you could be right.

Well, the way I understand it is...when the case went before the appellate court, it didn't use all of the possible evidence submitted by the Prosecutor, which included some of the DNA evidence. So actually it heard the case with "less evidence" than was presented in the criminal trial. The appellate court then declare the verdict NOT GUILTY. The prosecution asked the S.C. to review the case. The S.C. said that the appellate court didn't do its job properly and to rehear the case. So in essence, that nullified the appellate court's ruling of NOT GUILTY.

Thus, when the case was handed back to the appellate court, the evidence not admitted in the first hearing was heard...and the verdict was changed to GUILTY. The attorney for Knox appealed to case to go back to the S.C.

Consequently...there may not be a double jeopardy situation going on. ?????? But I could be totally wrong.

I think where it gets confusing for Americans is that in Italy both parties can appeal a verdict. Even if they had been found innocent at the very first verdict, the prosecution could have appealed. The trial isn't over until all appeals are exhausted. As far as I know, when someone is acquitted in the US system, that's the end of it. The prosecution has to accept defeat and the trial is over. Not so in Italy.
 
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