View Poll Results: Should Amanda Knox Be Extradited to Prison in Italy?

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  • Yes, in accordance with the US-Italy extradition treaty.

    27 27.55%
  • Yes, she should be imprisoned somewhere, but maybe in the US.

    2 2.04%
  • No, Americans shouldn't be extradited to foreign nations even if they're guilty.

    12 12.24%
  • No, she isn't guilty.

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    Re: Should Amanda Knox Be Extradited to Prison in Italy?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the Italian argument holds no water. we have a convicted criminal who was also convicted of the murder of the British Girl who has no real connection or concordance of interest with Knox and her italian boyfriend. That alone casts almost fatal doubt on the Italian theory. Hatuey noted on this (or the thread I started about Knox) about what is the most likely scenario.
    Honestly, I haven't been following the details of the case. What few details I read made me so angry I had to file it under NOPE and walk away.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Should Amanda Knox Be Extradited to Prison in Italy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    There's no statute of limitations on many of the most heinous crimes. If evidence arises that proves someone's guilt, it ought to be heard and an injustice righted if it possibly can be. Like in this case:

    From Wikipedia Double Jeopardy
    While it may let some bad guys off the hook, as a whole double jeopardy is a great law to have. The state should not be allowed to come back and retry someone over and over again until they get the conviction they want.
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    Re: Should Amanda Knox Be Extradited to Prison in Italy?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    While it may let some bad guys off the hook, as a whole double jeopardy is a great law to have. The state should not be allowed to come back and retry someone over and over again until they get the conviction they want.
    Since I don't know of anywhere where that can happen, those don't seem to be the two competing options. That's not what has happened in Italy and, in countries where second trials can take place, there are tightly applied criteria for when this may happen. As usual, hard and fast, no exceptions made, blanket bans tend to be deeply flawed and lacking in natural justice.
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    Re: Should Amanda Knox Be Extradited to Prison in Italy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Since I don't know of anywhere where that can happen, those don't seem to be the two competing options. That's not what has happened in Italy and, in countries where second trials can take place, there are tightly applied criteria for when this may happen. As usual, hard and fast, no exceptions made, blanket bans tend to be deeply flawed and lacking in natural justice.
    That's what's happening in Italy. The prosecution found more evidence that they feel could change the outcome of the previous trial, so they're having another. That's even exactly what you said. You said if the state finds more evidence of a crime, they should be able to call back and retry that person.

    If you have enough trials, you'll eventually get a conviction for something.
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    Re: Should Amanda Knox Be Extradited to Prison in Italy?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    That's what's happening in Italy. The prosecution found more evidence that they feel could change the outcome of the previous trial, so they're having another. That's even exactly what you said. You said if the state finds more evidence of a crime, they should be able to call back and retry that person.

    If you have enough trials, you'll eventually get a conviction for something.
    No, that's not the case at all. I've explained this about four times now. What has just happened in Italy is that this conviction is the culmination of the original indictment. They were tried and found guilty. They appealed, and were acquitted. The prosecution appealed that acquittal on the basis of wrong procedure. The Court of Cassation, which is superior to the Appellate Court ruled that the acquittal hearing had been improperly conducted. It was not a new trial, but the continuation of the appeals process from the original trial. You have appeals in the US judicial system too, and it is possible for an acquittal to be overturned. That's what happened in Florence.
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    Re: Should Amanda Knox Be Extradited to Prison in Italy?

    I have zero trust in the Italian legal system and have serious doubts about her guilt and because of that the US should not extradite citizens to countries in which they most likely will not or have not received a full and fair trial.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: Should Amanda Knox Be Extradited to Prison in Italy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    I have zero trust in the Italian legal system and have serious doubts about her guilt and because of that the US should not extradite citizens to countries in which they most likely will not or have not received a full and fair trial.
    Any system run by lawyers has got to make you think twice, I guess, but if you don't trust a nation's judicial system, don't make extradition treaties with them.
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    Re: Should Amanda Knox Be Extradited to Prison in Italy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Any system run by lawyers has got to make you think twice, I guess, but if you don't trust a nation's judicial system, don't make extradition treaties with them.
    except that the US must have had a good reason to have an extradition treaty with Italy (possibly mob related).
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: Should Amanda Knox Be Extradited to Prison in Italy?

    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
    America stricktly refuses most extraditions into any country in the world and Europe refuses most of extraditions into the US

    So either way, before specific cases can be debated, a common understanding would have to be found by both regions.

    And that is not likely to happen.
    Nor should it happen.

    **** Europe!

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    Re: Should Amanda Knox Be Extradited to Prison in Italy?

    I don't know enough about it to answer. I would think the USA would have to honor the extradition request or the refusals would become both ways.

    If it were the other way around, we'd probably just declare she's a terrorist and use a drone attack.

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