View Poll Results: Should Amanda Knox Be Extradited to Prison in Italy?

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  • Yes, in accordance with the US-Italy extradition treaty.

    27 27.55%
  • Yes, she should be imprisoned somewhere, but maybe in the US.

    2 2.04%
  • No, Americans shouldn't be extradited to foreign nations even if they're guilty.

    12 12.24%
  • No, she isn't guilty.

    57 58.16%
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    Re: Should Amanda Knox Be Extradited to Prison in Italy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    Yes and he's in jail. People who suspect her give much attention to her changing testimony. They ignore how often the prosecutions hypothetical scenario has changed. When they couldn't get the satanic group sex game scenario to fit they changed to Amanda and Solletico stabbing her over an unflushed toilet and watching as Guede raped the corpse.
    There was on concert of action between Knox, her lover and Guede. That alone should have put a serious flushing on the Prosecution



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    Re: Should Amanda Knox Be Extradited to Prison in Italy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ad_Captandum View Post
    (Pretty sure we won that one.)

    How's the new White House? Nicer than the one we burnt down? Shame about all of your founding fathers' heirlooms, though.

    Yeah England got America back and Canada did not end up being a satellite of the USA but still remains one of England



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    Re: Should Amanda Knox Be Extradited to Prison in Italy?

    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
    America stricktly refuses most extraditions into any country in the world and Europe refuses most of extraditions into the US

    So either way, before specific cases can be debated, a common understanding would have to be found by both regions.

    And that is not likely to happen.
    You mean like through a treaty?

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    Re: Should Amanda Knox Be Extradited to Prison in Italy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Yes, that advancement is inevitable. It was, is, and always will be a test of whether we are willing to live as we SHOULD or as we WANT. We have developed tools, machines, and techniques that make construction easier, even for those who lack significant upper body strength. That still doesn't mean it is an appropriate profession for women. We shouldn't get rid of the backhoe or nailgun simply because they could be used by a woman, but we should restrict the access to such tools to ensure they don't.
    You have to accept that there's no consensus or be destined for disappointment. It will never exist while individuals remain unique. Agree to disagree about ineligibility on the basis of gender. I'm steadfastly opposed to providing the extremist, misandrist, whackjob fringe (read as 'feminazis') with an actual excuse to cry victim.

    Given the option of a subsistance level life with morals or this life, I'll take subsistance. I just don't believe that the things have to be mutually exclusive.
    Economics and ideology develop in tandem. The process is symbiotic.

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    Re: Should Amanda Knox Be Extradited to Prison in Italy?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    The big one from 41-45 was
    Tru dat.

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    Re: Should Amanda Knox Be Extradited to Prison in Italy?

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    You have to accept that there's no consensus or be destined for disappointment. It will never exist while individuals remain unique. Agree to disagree about ineligibility on the basis of gender. I'm steadfastly opposed to providing the extremist, misandrist, whackjob fringe (read as 'feminazis') with an actual excuse to cry victim.
    There is no "concensus" because this society has never REQUIRED there be a concensus. The Founding Fathers naively thought there WAS concensus on Morals or Values. They have to have, or they would have written them into the Constitution. If not, their even greater FOOLS than I believe them to be. Concensus is created by saying "Here are the Rules. If you don't like them, there's the door."

    I'm more than happy to give the Feminists something to cry about, though it wouldn't be through words.

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    Economics and ideology develop in tandem. The process is symbiotic.
    Economics develops. Ideology remains the same. If it doesn't, then it isn't an Ideology, it's just hogwash that someone spouts to cover their asses.

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    Re: Should Amanda Knox Be Extradited to Prison in Italy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    There is no "concensus" because this society has never REQUIRED there be a concensus. The Founding Fathers naively thought there WAS concensus on Morals or Values. They have to have, or they would have written them into the Constitution. If not, their even greater FOOLS than I believe them to be. Concensus is created by saying "Here are the Rules. If you don't like them, there's the door."
    They had vision and they were innovative. You can't take that away from them. Most of the ideals they championed were reactions to the yoke of foreign oppression recently vanquished. The collective sentiments of an oppressed people. What you're describing is Fascism, but that's not on the cards for the moment.

    I'm more than happy to give the Feminists something to cry about, though it wouldn't be through words.
    Do that and you only legitimise their hitherto unfounded claims. One undermines extremism by denying its lifeblood. Not providing it sustenance.

    Economics develops. Ideology remains the same. If it doesn't, then it isn't an Ideology, it's just hogwash that someone spouts to cover their asses.
    There's no established duration for definition of ideology. Nor is it acknowledged that ideology will be impervious to modification. Since ideology is defined by people, its composition is likewise subject to interpretation and subscription.

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    Re: Should Amanda Knox Be Extradited to Prison in Italy?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    AD is a media darling-some would say Media Whore. hard to say what his motivations area. The only time you know AD is telling the truth is on matters involving Israel
    Other Legal Experts have substantiated AD's claims such as Julian Ku from Hofstra University in New York.

    Quote Originally Posted by CNN

    "They always forget she was convicted first," Julian Ku, who teaches transnational law at Hofstra University in New York, told Agence-France Presse.

    If Italy does file an extradition request with the U.S. State Department, Knox will have the right to challenge her transfer to Italy in a U.S. court. "The chances of her winning that are not high because there has to be some very strong claim she'd have to make to block her extradition," Ku added.

    "I followed the trial, it was slow but I never got the sense that it was unfair," he said.


    Amanda Knox retrial verdict: Six things to know - CNN.com
    Last edited by Chatter; 02-03-14 at 01:56 PM.

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    Re: Should Amanda Knox Be Extradited to Prison in Italy?

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    They had vision and they were innovative. You can't take that away from them. Most of the ideals they championed were reactions to the yoke of foreign oppression recently vanquished. The collective sentiments of an oppressed people. What you're describing is Fascism, but that's not in the cards for the moment.
    They had vision and they were innovative. That much I'll give you. They had some good ideas, but they failed to ensure that the foundation for those ideas (the morals and values of the day) could not be undermined in the future. That makes them either naive or stupid.

    What I'm describing IS much closer to Fascism, but considering the quality of humanity at this time, I don't see any other option.

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    Do that and you only legitimise their hitherto unfounded claims. One undermines extremism by denying its lifeblood. Not providing it sustenance.
    What unfounded claims?.... that real Men understand what a woman's place is and expect her to remain in it? That's not unfounded by any stretch of hte imagination. One destroys extremism by either forcing people to change or removing those people from the popullation permanently (one way or another).

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    There's no established duration for definition of ideology. Nor is it acknowledged that ideology will be impervious to modification. Since ideology is defined by people, its composition is likewise subject to interpretation and subscription.
    There is most definitely a definition for the duration of ideology..... PERMANENT. If it changes it's no longer that ideology.

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    Re: Should Amanda Knox Be Extradited to Prison in Italy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    They had vision and they were innovative. That much I'll give you. They had some good ideas, but they failed to ensure that the foundation for those ideas (the morals and values of the day) could not be undermined in the future. That makes them either naive or stupid.

    What I'm describing IS much closer to Fascism, but considering the quality of humanity at this time, I don't see any other option.
    In fairness, not one of us has a crystal ball. Some of the issues you find to be contentious couldn't have existed back then. Considering what they were up against, the scale of what they were trying to achieve and the fact that in certain areas they were groping blindly in the dark, they did a remarkable job.

    Humanity is always quality. Only God is perfect.

    What unfounded claims?.... that real Men understand what a woman's place is and expect her to remain in it? That's not unfounded by any stretch of hte imagination. One destroys extremism by either forcing people to change or removing those people from the popullation permanently (one way or another).
    I was referring to their unfounded claims. Basically that all women are victims and all men are brutal oppressors who revel in an extinct patriarchy. Having embarked upon your course, they'd transition from a puerile and infantile misandrist fringe to being completely vindicated, overnight. You'd not only suddenly prove them right but bring them out of their caves into the bright light of mainstream appeal.

    Neither women nor men have a 'place'. You can't simply silence millions of people, brah. That's psycho.

    There is most definitely a definition for the duration of ideology..... PERMANENT. If it changes it's no longer that ideology.
    Ideology only refers to subscribed ideals and concepts. Were you correct, the very first example of ideology to have ever existed on this earth would be the only one the world has ever lived by.

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