View Poll Results: Should Amanda Knox Be Extradited to Prison in Italy?

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  • Yes, in accordance with the US-Italy extradition treaty.

    27 27.55%
  • Yes, she should be imprisoned somewhere, but maybe in the US.

    2 2.04%
  • No, Americans shouldn't be extradited to foreign nations even if they're guilty.

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  • No, she isn't guilty.

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    Re: Should Amanda Knox Be Extradited to Prison in Italy?

    Would it nullify the treaty if an extradition request was denied?
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    Re: Should Amanda Knox Be Extradited to Prison in Italy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ad_Captandum View Post
    Don't be an absurd -- what you're recommending is a recipe for ignorance and xenophobia. The wide world is a fascinating and beautiful place, and the vast majority of it does not lie within the boundaries of your country.
    The wide world if the modern age is a place I have no use for. I am an Isolationist at heart and always will be. There's nothing outside the US that I need to see.

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    Perhaps wiser advice is, "Don't murder people", potentially with an added "Especially in foreign countries."
    Don't leave the US and it's not an issue to begin with. Honestly, she shouldn't have gotten any aid from the US when she was tried originally but now that she's home there's no way the US should allow her to be sent back to a Socialist **** hole like Italy.

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    Re: Should Amanda Knox Be Extradited to Prison in Italy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    Would it nullify the treaty if an extradition request was denied?
    It might be subject to review, in terms of Italy and there is a long running campaign to further reform the current UK extradition arrangements with the US.

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    Re: Should Amanda Knox Be Extradited to Prison in Italy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    The wide world if the modern age is a place I have no use for. I am an Isolationist at heart and always will be. There's nothing outside the US that I need to see.



    Don't leave the US and it's not an issue to begin with. Honestly, she shouldn't have gotten any aid from the US when she was tried originally but now that she's home there's no way the US should allow her to be sent back to a Socialist **** hole like Italy.
    Speaking for everyone who lives outside the USA, I'd like to say I sincerely hope you take your own advice.
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    Re: Should Amanda Knox Be Extradited to Prison in Italy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    Speaking for everyone who lives outside the USA, I'd like to say I sincerely hope you take your own advice.
    Trust me, I have no intent of ever leaving the US. As much if a **** hole as the US is, it's Eden compared to most of the rest of the world.

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    Re: Should Amanda Knox Be Extradited to Prison in Italy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chatter View Post
    It might be subject to review, in terms of Italy and there is a long running campaign to further reform the current UK extradition arrangements with the US.
    Broadly speaking, it might be less complicated for the US to just not have extradition treaties with anyone. Might not be long before other countries negate their treaties with the US, thinking it's just a one-way deal anyway.
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    Re: Should Amanda Knox Be Extradited to Prison in Italy?

    I picked the first option because if our treaty requires us to extradite her, we should comply. If it doesn't require us to extradite her, then we shouldn't. (say, if double jeopardy is excluded from the treaty).

    But the idea that we should just ignore the treaty because 'MURCA OORAH is ludicrous.
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    Re: Should Amanda Knox Be Extradited to Prison in Italy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    Would it nullify the treaty if an extradition request was denied?
    Technically, probably. On paper.

    In the real world, probably not. It would be seen as just another minor squabble and the two countries would go on about their business of generally being friends and supporting each other. Happens quite often, actually.
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    Re: Should Amanda Knox Be Extradited to Prison in Italy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    Would it nullify the treaty if an extradition request was denied?
    I don't see why.

    it's been long established that countries do not have to extradict if doing so violates their own civil rights protections. it's been brought up dozens of times this thread, but Canada won't extradict to the united states anyone charged with a capital offense unless the death penalty is taken off the table. (personally, I'm of the opinion that if another country refuses to extradict to us on that grounds we should just say "OK, he's yours, I'm sure our capital murderers will make a wonderful addition to your society" congradulations on a new canadian national!")

    Brazil will not extradict a Brazilian citizen nor the mother of a brazilian citizen under any circumstances.

    treaties are broad like that.
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    Re: Should Amanda Knox Be Extradited to Prison in Italy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    Broadly speaking, it might be less complicated for the US to just not have extradition treaties with anyone. Might not be long before other countries negate their treaties with the US, thinking it's just a one-way deal anyway.
    I am fine with that, it usual is a one way street any way, indeed we rarely seek extradition in the way US Authorities do and even in terms of terrorists have been unable to secure extradition from the US, and you are talking about individuals who have planted bombs in the UK and have murdered soldiers and police officers. It always was a one way street, and personally I think the French have the right idea, as they refuse to extradite any French nationals (outside of the EU).

    It all changed after 9/11, and the current 2003 UK/US Extradition treaty is a joke, it provides far more protection from extradition for US Citizens than it does British Citizens and was originally designed to ensure that terrorists could be extradited ore quickly to the US although in recent years the US has increasingly tried to extradite people for white collar crimes and internet crimes who have never even set foot in America. These are mainly British Citizens whose crimes white collar crimes where carried out on British Soil, and surely a British Citizen carrying out a crime on British Soil should be subject to a British Court and not extradited to a country many have never even set foot in before.
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