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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Seatbelts in no way help you control a vehicle that just got hit by another vehicle. Get real.
    Its easier to control the vehicle when your behind is in the seat instead of on the hood

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    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Anyone who does that is a ****ing idiot.
    That is of course your opinion. My sister almost died due to a seatbelt when she went of the road and into a river. Only reason she didn't is because she happened to have a knife with her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lovebug View Post
    Its easier to control the vehicle when your behind is in the seat instead of on the hood
    If you get hit hard enough to get thrown onto the hood then you are not going to be able to control the vehicle even if you're wearing a seatbelt.
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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

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    My job is to consider other peoples safety? Sorry but....No, its not. My only "job" is to protect me and mine. Everyone else can jump off a cliff for all I care.
    You have no right to needlessly endanger the lives of others, even if that makes endangering your rights more likely. You chose to participate in an activity, you are morally required to take steps to lessen the risks to others.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Nor do you have the right to decrease my chances of survival by making me wear something which may kill me. Its a two way street. (no pun intended)
    The chances of you surviving an accident while wearing a seat belt are statistically superior to not wearing one.

    Furthermore.... there is no right to drive. If you decide to participate in said activity you must participate by the rules set forth by the elected officials who represent the will of the people.

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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    What are you talking about?
    You said that as a taxpayer you have the right to mandate that people should wear seatbelts because its your tax money being used to care for them in the hospital. That is not the case any longer due to both car insurance and Obamacare mandating that people have health insurance. Not to mention you totally disregard the fact that someone might actually pay the bill by themselves which again means your tax dollars are not used.
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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    This question applies to legal adults only, not children:

    Do you believe in seat belt laws?

    a) Yes. They are nessisary to protect the public for their own good.
    b) No. I'm a consenting adult and shouldn't have to wear one if I don't want to.


    Discuss...
    I see the point in having them in that it's a healthcare issue. Person not wearing a seatbelt gets in a bad accident, goes to the ER and doesn't have insurance....well we all end up paying for that, don't we.

    That said, I really don't care that much. The only issue I have is states like mine which have seatbelt laws but not helmet laws for motorcycles. At least have some parity and consistency.


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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Very few people can accomplish such. Usually only professional drivers. Ordinary drivers on the other hand don't react in such a manner. Most peoples first reaction is shock which will leave you temporarily unable to react to anything. Other people can black out due to the sudden change in direction or sudden stop. The only time that a driver can actually attempt to control a vehicle, and have the faculty to be able to, is when they are not hit by another vehicle but instead spin out. And I know from person experiance that a spin out will not automatically throw you from your seat.
    Or.. they can maintain control of the vehicle, stopping it from possibly hitting other cars or people.

    The fact that you did not come out of your seat has to do with the G-forces, your mass, and the direction in which you are spinning. Your "experience" is fallacious.

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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    That is of course your opinion. My sister almost died due to a seatbelt when she went of the road and into a river. Only reason she didn't is because she happened to have a knife with her.
    That situation is so rare, that it is pointless to bring up when discussing seat belt use/laws. Everyone should wear a seat belt every time they get in a car. It makes travelling in a car much, much safer.
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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    If you get hit hard enough to get thrown onto the hood then you are not going to be able to control the vehicle even if you're wearing a seatbelt.
    My point exactly. Buckle up and stay in your seat. Improves your chances.
    As for seatbelts malfunction while under water. Just imaging banging your head hard on impact because you didn't wear the belt vs always keeping scissors in your glove compartment to use in case of SB malfunction.
    What do you think are your better chances?

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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Original Intent View Post
    You have no right to needlessly endanger the lives of others, even if that makes endangering your rights more likely. You chose to participate in an activity, you are morally required to take steps to lessen the risks to others.
    By who's morals? Yours? Pshh.

    And no, I do have a right to think of my own life over that of others. Thats one of the reasons that I can legally shoot someone that tries to rob my house.

    Hate to break it to you but my morals mean that I think of me and mine first. Everyone else is secondary.

    Quote Originally Posted by Original Intent View Post
    The chances of you surviving an accident while wearing a seat belt are statistically superior to not wearing one.
    Irrelevent. There is still a chance I will die due to a seatbelt. I get to decide what chances I take with my own life and which ones I don't. Not you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Original Intent View Post
    Furthermore.... there is no right to drive. If you decide to participate in said activity you must participate by the rules set forth by the elected officials who represent the will of the people.
    You're right, there is no right to drive on public roads. But I figure that if the government can ignore laws then so can I.
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