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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    Not wearing a seatbelt has the potential to put emergency responders at more risk since it could mean the different between them treating your shattered body in the middle of the road rather than treating your bruises in the car. In an environment where there are people legally required to assist you in the event of an accident, I think it's perfectly reasonable for there to be some laws designed to reduced the severity of accidents (or indeed prevent them from happening).
    Awesome. I failed to think of the safety of the responders. Bravo, and thanks.

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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    And frankly, I think the people going on about their personal freedom while completely ignoring the practical realities are self-obsessed ignorant jerks.
    The same could be said of those wanting to regulate everyone's lives. You say toe-mA-toe, I say Ta-ma-toe In the end maybe both sides are ignorant jerks?
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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    You are in a large, heavy moving object. Seat-belts help you maintain control over said object. You have no right to needlessly endanger the lives of others.

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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    How utterly convenient for your argument. No need for facts here. Just personal philosophy will do.
    Do you deny that seatbelts malfunction and due to that deaths occur?

    Though the national average for seat belt use is at a high of 71 percent, due mainly to a $3.7 million campaign often known as the Click it or Ticket, in which seat belt usage is encouraged, although the often overlooked statistic is the 10,000 deaths out of 30,000 auto accidents caused by faulty seat belts.
    Preventable Deaths Caused by Defective Seat Belts

    Just a quick search brought that up. Not to mention hundreds of links to sue happy lawyers that help sue in such situations.

    Happy you got some sort of statistic now? Of course I'm sure that you'll find something to fault with the article. Which is why I generally try and rely on common sense arguements.

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    By the way - it's "irrelevant".
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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Original Intent View Post
    You are in a large, heavy moving object. Seat-belts help you maintain control over said object. You have no right to needlessly endanger the lives of others.
    Seatbelts in no way help you control a vehicle that just got hit by another vehicle. Get real.
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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    The same could be said of those wanting to regulate everyone's lives. You say toe-mA-toe, I say Ta-ma-toe In the end maybe both sides are ignorant jerks?
    If anyone was promoting endless regulation while ignoring all practical realities you'd have a good point. Where people are promoting some regulation based on an honest assessment of the practical realities, they're nothing of the sort.

    Phrases like "regulate everyone's lives" are part of the problem. What does that even mean? It's just reads like knee-jerk rhetoric.

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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Seatbelts in no way help you control a vehicle that just got hit by another vehicle. Get real.
    I'm pretty real, and you are wrong. I didn't say it was a 100%, or it was going to help you when you get t-boned by a semi. Keeping you in a seat when you get hit, though, is a matter of 6ith grade physics.

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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    If anyone was promoting endless regulation while ignoring all practical realities you'd have a good point. Where people are promoting some regulation based on an honest assessment of the practical realities, they're nothing of the sort.

    Phrases like "regulate everyone's lives" are part of the problem. What does that even mean? It's just reads like knee-jerk rhetoric.
    It is this type of though process that has allowed our laws and regulations to become so large that not even our Federal government knows just how many federal laws are on the books today. Not counting the millions of state and local government laws and regulations.
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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Original Intent View Post
    I'm pretty real, and you are wrong. I didn't say it was a 100%, or it was going to help you when you get t-boned by a semi. Keeping you in a seat when you get hit, though, is a matter of 6ith grade physics.
    Did I say that it wouldn't keep you in your seat? Nope I didn't. My arguement from the get go has been that seat belts both save and cost people their lives. IE it has both pro's and con's. As such it should be up to the individual to decide.

    And the whole "if you don't wear a seatbelt you can potentially put other peoples lives in danger also" doesn't fly with me. Even getting in and driving the car in the first place puts other peoples lives in danger period. It is a risk that everyone accepts when they get into a car.
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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Seatbelts in no way help you control a vehicle that just got hit by another vehicle. Get real.
    Nonsense. They help to keep you conscious and in position to continue to operate the vehicle (if possible).
    “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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