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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    This question applies to legal adults only, not children:

    Do you believe in seat belt laws?

    a) Yes. They are nessisary to protect the public for their own good.
    b) No. I'm a consenting adult and shouldn't have to wear one if I don't want to.


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    Well, the problem with the "I'm a consenting adult" argument against the law is that if one doesn't wear a seat belt, not only is he or she much more likely to sustain serious injuries or death, but the cost of those injuries or death is borne not only by the family, but also often by the workplace that lost a productive worker...and in any case, if the person does not have sufficient insurance coverage, we the taxpayer also bear the cost. Not only that, but if the one who is seriously injured or died was the breadwinner of the family, all of a sudden we have yet another family in poverty...yet another family that the Right despises as being "takers on the federal dole".

    It's simply common sense - and MUCH cheaper for the taxpayer - to require seat belt use.
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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Seatbelts negate the first law of motion?
    Seriously?
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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Seatbelts negate the possibility of losing control?
    Give your head a shake. Or ask someone else to do it.
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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    And I am not interested in debating this point...either you/others get it or you don't.
    No problem - but don't be surprised if the insurance company refuses to cover some or all of your expenses from an accident.
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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Car insurance exists.
    And may be denied or reduced if you're unbelted in an accident.
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    Human skull fragments, from a car wreck, damaging property would be covered by car insurance.
    Not necessarily.
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    Car insurance covers harm done to others.
    Not necessarily.
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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    The part about panicking and drowning in shallow lakes?
    The lesson there is: Don't Panic!
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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I guess you didn't understand my post. I'm saying that can be the case with anything on or in the car, so I don't see that as a valid reason.
    There are few 150 pound objects in a car unless it's a person. That and a bag of cement (only 80 pounds) won't expect you to pay for it's injuries if you run over it. Luckily, some states won't make a driver pay for running over a person ejected from a vehicle because they didn't wear their seat belt and other states reduce the amount they have to pay. Works for me! Risk your life and health if you want but don't expect me or your insurance company to pay when you do.
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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Seatbelts negate the possibility of losing control?
    Seat belts reduce the possibility of losing control, which is all any safety or design feature can do, change the odds for the better. ABS doesn't stop people from losing control, either, but it reduces the possibility. Ditto for windshield wipers, exterior car lighting, good tires instead of May Pops, etc, etc, etc.
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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    No problem - but don't be surprised if the insurance company refuses to cover some or all of your expenses from an accident.
    I agree that is a strong possibility AND I have zero problem with that.

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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    There are few 150 pound objects in a car unless it's a person. That and a bag of cement (only 80 pounds) won't expect you to pay for it's injuries if you run over it. Luckily, some states won't make a driver pay for running over a person ejected from a vehicle because they didn't wear their seat belt and other states reduce the amount they have to pay. Works for me! Risk your life and health if you want but don't expect me or your insurance company to pay when you do.
    Are you serious? During an accident pieces of the CAR can become projectiles as can tires and hubcabs and other pieces of the vehicle. You people just want to make more and more unenforceable retarded laws, while coming up with all kinds of ridiculous scenarios.

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