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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Seatbelts negate the first law of motion?
    Basic physics lesson about Newton's First Law of Motion.

    Newton's First Law

    "An object at rest stays at rest and an object in motion stays in motion with the same speed and in the same direction unless acted upon by an unbalanced force"

    The seatbelt acts as that unbalanced force to stop the object (aka person) from moving at the same speed, in same direction as it was prior to the accident or whatever caused the vehicle to stop suddenly.
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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    The seatbelt acts as that unbalanced force to stop the object (aka person) from moving at the same speed, in same direction as it was prior to the accident or whatever caused the vehicle to stop suddenly.
    The scenario is human body parts flying from a car.

    Do seatbelts stop this?

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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    The scenario is human body parts flying from a car.

    Do seatbelts stop this?
    Seatbelts prevent the majority of human bodies from flying from the car when those seatbelts are worn. (We were discussing full bodies being ejected from cars, not simply body parts.)
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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    "Hard crashes?" You mean the kind where you fly through windshields?
    the kind where the firewall collapses on your legs and the post on each side of the windshield meaning the jaws of life cut you out. As cars get smaller it gets worse

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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Seatbelts prevent the majority of human bodies from flying from the car when those seatbelts are worn.
    Body parts, and it stops neither body parts or full bodies.

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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Body parts, and it stops neither body parts or full bodies.
    Seatbelts stop bodies from flying out of cars in many situations. Without a seatbelt, you have a body continuing to travel in the same direction, at same speed it was going until acted upon by something else. The seatbelt acts as that something else right away. There is a little slowdown as a body flies out a windshield, but not a lot if the person is traveling higher speeds. Plenty of people have been ejected from their vehicles due to not wearing their seatbelts. Or are you going to contest this fact?

    CDC - Seat Belt Policy Impact Brief - Motor Vehicle Safety - Injury Center

    Ejection from Vehicles Involved in Fatal Crashes Is Increasing

    "TABLE 1
    Ejection Rates Among Belted and Unbelted Motor Vehicle Occupants in Fatal Crashes

    Ejected Not Ejected
    Belted 2.49% 97.51%
    Unbelted 29.43% 70.57%"

    And we were discussing full bodies, not parts. I know where it was that I first quoted you on this. We were discussing people being ejected from their cars, not simply their body parts (which is unlikely to happen and kinda hard to prevent completely).
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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Seatbelts stop bodies from flying out of cars in many situations. Without a seatbelt, you have a body continuing to travel in the same direction, at same speed it was going until acted upon by something else. The seatbelt acts as that something else right away. There is a little slowdown as a body flies out a windshield, but not a lot if the person is traveling higher speeds. Plenty of people have been ejected from their vehicles due to not wearing their seatbelts. Or are you going to contest this fact?

    CDC - Seat Belt Policy Impact Brief - Motor Vehicle Safety - Injury Center

    Ejection from Vehicles Involved in Fatal Crashes Is Increasing

    "TABLE 1
    Ejection Rates Among Belted and Unbelted Motor Vehicle Occupants in Fatal Crashes

    Ejected Not Ejected
    Belted 2.49% 97.51%
    Unbelted 29.43% 70.57%"

    And we were discussing full bodies, not parts. I know where it was that I first quoted you on this. We were discussing people being ejected from their cars, not simply their body parts (which is unlikely to happen and kinda hard to prevent completely).
    I did not ask for qualifiers. A seatbelt does not eliminate body parts or full bodies from exiting a car.

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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    I did not ask for qualifiers. A seatbelt does not eliminate body parts or full bodies from exiting a car.
    So what? Brakes don't eliminate car accidents. Should we get rid of those too?
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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    So what?
    It was a topic in the thread.

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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    When you hire your own EMTs to scrape your dumb ass off the pavement when you don't wear a seat belt, then you can feel free not to.
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