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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Medical expenses is only part of it.

    I used the example of my accident in 2005. It was a major interstate multiple cars flipping and spinning kind of accident. After looking at my chest , neck, abdomen (path of belt) the doctor made comments on how bad it would have been without the belt (catastrophic injury or death). Even if my injuries were totally covered by insurance (either medical policy or through the car insurance)-I am the single mother of a special needs child and the primary caregiver to my elderly mother with multiple medical issues - can you imagine the financial impact if I was catastrophically debilitated or if my mother was forced into long term care? My wearing a seatbelt, not only saved my health insurance company a chunk of change, the government was spared taking on my former responsibilities of mother and caretaker of my elderly mother.

    I feel the same way about helmet laws. I don't want precious to get their head crushed, but I really don't want the government caring for a catastrophically brain injured person for 60 years either.
    Neither do I, which is why I want people who don't want to take responsible actions and make good decisions to be totally responsible for any and all costs associated with their decisions, including all of the things you mentioned. If someone wants to be stupid, by all means, be stupid, but you're on your own.
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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    There are so many reasons besides personal safety why seatbelt laws are important. People complain about them because they want to claim it is a loss of freedom issue (although it impedes on personal freedom no more than speeding laws or child restraint laws). But what if you were that person who ran someone over who wasn't wearing their seatbelt and they were ejected from a car? What if it was your wife or husband, son or daughter, mother or father who ran that person over, having to suffer trauma themselves because there was nothing to monetarily encourage that idiot to wear a seatbelt (after all, it was the idiot's free choice to not wear it)? And if you don't think it can't happen, just check out some of the videos about people not wearing their seatbelts and being ejected from their cars after a freeway accident where there car has flipped.
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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    I think if people were willing to sign a waiver that hospitals wouldn't be required to get them healthy again if the person is uninsured and is willing to bleed to death over their stupidity and idiotic pride, than yes, they can be exempt from the law.

    I shouldn't be required to take care of such people with increased medical fees.

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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    I think if people were willing to sign a waiver that hospitals wouldn't be required to get them healthy again if the person is uninsured and is willing to bleed to death over their stupidity and idiotic pride, than yes, they can be exempt from the law.

    I shouldn't be required to take care of such people with increased medical fees.
    No doctor would agree to this.

    I shouldn't be required to take care of any people with increased medical fees.

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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Driving a car without a seat belt is a lot safer than riding a motorcycle.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    No doctor would agree to this.

    I shouldn't be required to take care of any people with increased medical fees.
    I am ok with the increased fees so long as people are behaving in such a way that is generally not idiotic and by and large society acts like that. I get plenty of benefit so I am willing to pay a bit more, it balances out.

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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    I am ok with the increased fees so long as people are behaving in such a way that is generally not idiotic and by and large society acts like that. I get plenty of benefit so I am willing to pay a bit more, it balances out.
    Except the majority of people act idiotic in their choices including eating too much, smoking, drinking, etc.

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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Except the majority of people act idiotic in their choices including eating too much, smoking, drinking, etc.
    those things are already factored into the current costs and I can't do anything about that.

    I can oppose more stupidity though.

    Another thing I would be ok with is that insurance companies increase their premiums for expected medical costs for this behavior. that would be acceptable to me too.

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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    It's my body and should be my right to choose whether to wear one. I have been in a situation where a seat belt saved me from knocking my head on the dash and I have been in a situation where not wearing one allowed me to take the wheel and keep the car on the road when my friend passed out while driving.

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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    I do not support any state regulation banning or supporting consensual consumer purchases.
    Considering the amount of "Likes" you have given + your previous posts on this site, I'd imagine that you don't support much in the world.

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