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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post

    All of this is post crash, even a person with a deployed airbag is not in control of their vehicle.
    It was an example of momentum and inertia affecting the driver. I.e. driver not in control of the forces at work within the universe.

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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    No, but is there a reason you think I would care if seat belt violators are breaking other laws? How does that provide merit to seat belt laws again? What because otherwise you couldn't bust them for other law violations? Oh boo ****ing hoo.
    Police do not feel this way.
    Try it some time.
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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Look, if seventh grade science wasn't taught at your school there isn't actually any need to go back and take it. In fact, my post to American will work with you just as well:

    Fortunately you can test this out for yourself. First, find a big, empty parking lot to drive in where you won't hurt anyone else (or anything) and do a little experiment. Accelerate to 35mph and turn sharply to the left, once while wearing your seatbelt, once without, and you tell me which instance you're in better control of your vehicle. During the instance where you're not wearing the seatbelt, imagine that there are other drivers and pedestrians in close proximity to you.
    And my response to you, answered that question. But your pride and need to be right is carrying through the rest of the thread now. Your source is not about control.

    From your source:

    The task of the seatbelt is to stop you with the car....
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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    And my response to you, answered that question. But your pride and need to be right is carrying through the rest of the thread now. Your source is not about control.

    From your source:
    And I responded to that.

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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Police do not feel this way.
    Try it some time.
    Yeah, I was once pulled over for speeding(which btw is a victimless crime) and the cop wanted to know what was in my passenger seat. Guess what it was? A gun. Did he need to know about it? Nope.

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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Yeah, I was once pulled over for speeding(which btw is a victimless crime)
    Maybe, maybe not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    and the cop wanted to know what was in my passenger seat. Guess what it was? A gun. Did he need to know about it? Nope.
    I don't want to derail the thread, much less turn this into a gun control discussion which really isn't my thing, but if a cop sees a gun lying on a car seat doesn't he at least have a right to ask if you have a permit for it?

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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Maybe, maybe not.
    Unless I hit someone it's not. I was going fifteen over the speed limit and hit no one.

    I don't want to derail the thread, much less turn this into a gun control discussion which really isn't my thing, but if a cop sees a gun lying on a car seat doesn't he at least have a right to ask if you have a permit for it?
    No.

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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Is it all about safety or those $150 traffic tickets and making revenue dollars for the state or counties?
    Follow the money trail.

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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Unless I hit someone it's not. I was going fifteen over the speed limit and hit no one.
    Reckless endangerment is a thing. I don't know if what you were doing would qualify because I know too little of the facts surrounding your speeding incident, but you don't have to cause harm first before you're arrested/cited for behavior that could likely lead to it.

    There are, unfortunately, blind spots in this regard in crime, but mostly that's the case.



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    Legally or according to your principles?
    Last edited by Cardinal; 01-31-14 at 04:03 PM.

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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    They force you to buckle up, which might save you and let you smoke and drink, which will definitely harm you. There's something incongruous.
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