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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Generally, yes. Doesn't mean that the gov. shouldn't put in regulations that protect people.
    Yes, it does. The government is to act on crimes. If there was no crime there is no reason to act.

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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    I support seat belt laws for all.
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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Even if it is illogical, do I not have the right to self determination? You didn't answer my question about the fast food restaruants and junk food. Which kills far more people than seat belts save. Should we get rid of them in the name of saving lives? (unless I missed your answer?)
    No, obviously. But those are not the same things.

    And if you can recognize that you're wrong about not wearing the seat belt, why do you still not wear it? It's idiotic.
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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    No, obviously. But those are not the same things.
    You opened up the door with your veggies comment. If its not useable as an analogy then.....? I figure that since your arguement is that seatbelts save lives then my question to you is the same since both would save lives.

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    And if you can recognize that you're wrong about not wearing the seat belt, why do you still not wear it? It's idiotic.
    I recognize both possibilites. For me it is dependent on where I am driving. If I am in town where the speed limit ranges from 10mph-35mph then a seatbelt is pretty much useless as you won't get hit hard enough on a foward or back impact. You're not going fast enough to cause any serious damage to yourself. But getting T-boned on the driver side a seatbelt will restrict you to the point where you have the door or engine in your lap instead of you being pushed into the passenger seat. On the highway though where the speed limit is 60mph (my area) then yeah, wear a seatbelt.
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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    I have no problem with adults not wearing seat belts so long as they are willing to only accept compensation fir the injuries they would have sustained if they had been wearing one in the case of an accident.

    As my uncle, a retired fireman says.... In 32 years on the job he never unbuckled a corpse.

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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Since decisions to not wear seat belts can affect others besides that person, yes, I do support seat belt laws.

    The human body becomes a projectile when it has been traveling at 30-60 mph in a car and suddenly that car is no longer traveling that speed. The body keeps going. A seat belt stops that motion. Without the seatbelt, the body can strike others within the car, causing damage to them or be ejected from the car, causing harm or problems to others traveling the road.
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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    To not wear a seat belt is silly if you care about your safety. They obviously save lives in a huge way.

    BUT...I do not believe for one second that the government has the right to force you to wear them.

    If I want to further risk my life by not wearing a seat belt...that is my choice.

    Bungy jumping and recreational skydiving are not safe...should the government outlaw them as well? Of course not.

    I should be legally able to smoke crack, jump out of an airplane for fun, not wear a helmet while I ride a motorcycle, not wear seat belts or even kill myself...none of these things on their own are ANY of the government's business.

    If I wish to abuse/subject my body to greater danger...including not wearing seat belts...that should be my choice.
    The use of seatbelts saves money for every insured driver on the road.

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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    What is reasonable to you? What is reasonable to me? Some people think that it is perfectly reasonble to ban all guns. Others think that it is perfectly reasonable to ban certain kinds of "hate" speech. This is why I said "not reasonable". What is and isn't reasonable is entirely subjective.

    Also when I say "limited" I'm talking about in scope. Not in totality.
    What is or isn't limited is subjective too. The point is that determining the appropriate limits of government is a wider question that would need to be discussed. Questions about a single specific law or regulation needs to be discussed on an individual case-by-case basis. Basically, regardless or where you stand on limits of government, the question of seat-belt laws could remain open.

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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    The driver and front seat passenger need to wear a seatbelt . The driver needs to be kept in place so he/she can keep control of the vehicle if the car were to go into a skid . The front Passenger is because if the car crashes with enough force he/she would not eject and potentially strike another vehicle. which may lead into a lawsuit .
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    Re: Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Un biased View Post
    The driver and front seat passenger need to wear a seatbelt . The driver needs to be kept in place so he/she can keep control of the vehicle if the car were to go into a skid . The front Passenger is because if the car crashes with enough force he/she would not eject and potentially strike another vehicle. which may lead into a lawsuit .
    Everyone in the car needs to wear a seatbelt. Everyone in that car is a projectile just waiting to get free.

    There's a video on YouTube, that I just realized may be too graphic. "Seatbelt safety ads" will bring them up.

    Newton's First Law of Motion. An object in motion stays in motion, unless acted upon by an unbalanced force. The seatbelt acts as that "unbalanced force". Without it, you become a dangerous heavy weapon flying around in the car.

    And I wanted to add that many of the seatbelt safety ads from other countries are frick'n graphic. Ours are mainly "Click it or Ticket" ads, telling you that you will get a ticket for not doing it, theirs actually show violent accidents where seatbelts weren't worn and the effect, especially the UK.
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