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    Re: Will obamacare make dem's lose senate

    If Obamacare is an issue, then the Republican habit of stepping on their dicks, hard and often, throughout the preceding term will also carry over. Shutting down the gov't with no results except costing taxpayers billions is just one example. If they had continued, sequestration would have kicked in and the Military Offense budget would have been cut. I'm against shutting down gov't, but am 100% behind sequestration. Christie and stink sticking to the Party. "Rape" comments with poorly chosen words has pissed women off. Anti gay remarks from the Gay Blades themselves has pissed off the gays. "Wellie" accusations resulting from unemployment discussions is going to cost Repugs votes. It goes on and on. Actually, I think they will do poorly in the 2014 election cycle. I remain positive for Greens. The citizens are waking up. Maybe Repugs will benefit from Dems going Green.

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    Re: Will obamacare make dem's lose senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    The trouble with this poll is that 'Obamacare' will not be on the ballot but rather 'some candidate'. Regardless of how the electorate of a state feels about ACA the 'non-democrat' person on the ballot MUST be electable. Their electability hinging on not screwing up too badly while campaigning or having significant 'skeletons' in their closet.
    Voting for obamacare IS a skeleton in your closet. People are being hurt in the pocket book by this and people vote their pocket book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    That is the way I see it today. But there is 10 months to go and anything can happen. The house is safely republican at this time where either party could gain or lose up to 5 seats.
    Obamacare has been an albatross for democrats since the day it was enacted. The House still remains firmly in the hands of republicans elected because of Obamacare .. which includes some of the most braindead politicians in political history.

    More than likely, democrats will lose the Senate in 2014, but nobody should cry any crocodile tears for them, they brought this on themselves. Obama has been nothing short of a failure .. and democrats never had to courage to stand up to him.
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    Re: Will obamacare make dem's lose senate

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Never underestimate the ability of the republicants to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
    They did it in 2008, and again in 2012.
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    Re: Will obamacare make dem's lose senate

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAsCoal View Post
    Obamacare has been an albatross for democrats since the day it was enacted. The House still remains firmly in the hands of republicans elected because of Obamacare .. which includes some of the most braindead politicians in political history.

    More than likely, democrats will lose the Senate in 2014, but nobody should cry any crocodile tears for them, they brought this on themselves. Obama has been nothing short of a failure .. and democrats never had to courage to stand up to him.
    LOL, yeah braindead certainly applies to some. But going district by district in the house there are only around 25 seats that do not look relative safe at this time that anything can happen in them. 15 Republican held seats and 10 Democratic held seats. Those numbers will change as retirements are announced I am sure. So the change in the house should be more than a net gain or loss of 5 seats by either party. The senate is another story. The republicans have a realistic chance of picking up between 4-7 democratic held seats whereas the democrats have only a realistic chance of picking up 2 republican held seats.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    I think it will somewhat balance out with the shutdown. Republicans were blamed for the shutdown more than he Democrats were. (From surveys by pollsters)

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    Re: Will obamacare make dem's lose senate

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    This is really interesting and really hopeful for anti dems like me.


    "For Democrats, the politics of the health care law are creating a death spiral of their own. For the White House to protect its signature initiative, it needs to maintain a Democratic Senate majority past 2015. But to do so, Majority Leader Harry Reid needs to insulate vulnerable battleground-state Democrats, who are all too eager to propose their own fixes to the law that may be politically satisfying, but could undermine the fundamentals of the law.
    Race-by-race polling conducted over the last month has painted a grim picture of the difficult environment Senate Democrats are facing next year. In Louisiana, a new state survey showed Landrieu's approval rating is now underwater; she tallied only 41 percent of the vote against her GOP opposition. In Arkansas, where advertising on the health care law began early, Sen. Mark Pryor's approval sank to 33 percent, a drop of 18 points since last year. A new Quinnipiac survey showed Sen. Mark Udall of Colorado, who looked like a lock for reelection last month, in a dead heat against little-known GOP opponents. Even a Democratic automated poll from Public Policy Polling showed Sen. Kay Hagan of North Carolina running neck-and-neck against Republican opposition, with her job disapproval spiking over the last two months. These are the types of numbers that wave elections are made of.


    For Democrats, the politics of the health care law are creating a death spiral of their own. For the White House to protect its signature initiative, it needs to maintain a Democratic Senate majority past 2015. But to do so, Majority Leader Harry Reid needs to insulate vulnerable battleground-state Democrats, who are all too eager to propose their own fixes to the law that may be politically satisfying, but could undermine the fundamentals of the law.
    Race-by-race polling conducted over the last month has painted a grim picture of the difficult environment Senate Democrats are facing next year. In Louisiana, a new state survey showed Landrieu's approval rating is now underwater; she tallied only 41 percent of the vote against her GOP opposition. In Arkansas, where advertising on the health care law began early, Sen. Mark Pryor's approval sank to 33 percent, a drop of 18 points since last year. A new Quinnipiac survey showed Sen. Mark Udall of Colorado, who looked like a lock for reelection last month, in a dead heat against little-known GOP opponents. Even a Democratic automated poll from Public Policy Polling showed Sen. Kay Hagan of North Carolina running neck-and-neck against Republican opposition, with her job disapproval spiking over the last two months. These are the types of numbers that wave elections are made of.
    The Dems are definitely weakened and vulnerable. I'd say they might lose the senate IF the Republicans had learned their lesson from the last several years. Unfortunately, they are keeping on keepin' on with the same ol' same ol', which is more unpopular than Obamacare.

    STILL there are loose Republican tongues about women's issues. STILL there are moves to force women to have object rapes in order to have a legal procedure done. STILL there are talks and bills about forcing others to do their bidding on social issues (abortion, gay marriages, marijuana), all of which is to STOP others from doing something or FORCE others to do something their way. They have strong feelings about those things. Fine. But most of the country disagrees with them. And that costs votes in some areas. And now, finally, we have a Republican proposal for healthcare reform, and it contains an increase in taxes for the middle class, as well as a mandatory provision of sorts (it's not called that, but you may never be able to purchase insurance again if you choose to go without it for one year, so that's a mandatory provision). That's their answer to Obamacare? It won't be popular.

    And so it goes.

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    Re: Will obamacare make dem's lose senate

    Quote Originally Posted by JumpinJack View Post
    The Dems are definitely weakened and vulnerable. I'd say they might lose the senate IF the Republicans had learned their lesson from the last several years. Unfortunately, they are keeping on keepin' on with the same ol' same ol', which is more unpopular than Obamacare.

    STILL there are loose Republican tongues about women's issues. STILL there are moves to force women to have object rapes in order to have a legal procedure done. STILL there are talks and bills about forcing others to do their bidding on social issues (abortion, gay marriages, marijuana), all of which is to STOP others from doing something or FORCE others to do something their way. They have strong feelings about those things. Fine. But most of the country disagrees with them. And that costs votes in some areas. And now, finally, we have a Republican proposal for healthcare reform, and it contains an increase in taxes for the middle class, as well as a mandatory provision of sorts (it's not called that, but you may never be able to purchase insurance again if you choose to go without it for one year, so that's a mandatory provision). That's their answer to Obamacare? It won't be popular.

    And so it goes.
    Maybe if the Republicans keep harping on the "social conservative" issues you speak of, and the Democrats are seen as the party of big government, the voters will get tired of them both and elect some libertarians.

    Probably not, but we can dream, can't we?
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    Re: Will obamacare make dem's lose senate

    The problem that Republicans have is their core base is so hung up on cultural issues that they have a tendency to vote for total nut jobs in the primaries, and kill their chances in statewide federal elections. It seems like they may do this again in 2014 and possibly cost themselves the senate yet again. Time will tell.
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    Re: Will obamacare make dem's lose senate

    This will not help dems keep the senate.


    "As the deadline for 2014 enrollment nears, Obamacare is increasingly growing unpopular, especially among the uninsured. A new Kaiser Family Foundation survey finds that about twice as many uninsured people have an unfavorable view of the health-care law than have a favorable one.

    Among the uninsured, 47 percent view Obamacare in a negative light versus the 24 percent who view it favorably. That’s a change from 43 percent who viewed it unfavorably last month, and 36 percent who viewed it favorably. Overall, half of Americans view Obamacare unfavorably, while just over one-third have a positive take on the law. ​

    More of the uninsured also said Obamacare made them worse off (39 percent) than improved their situation (26 percent), according to the poll"


    Obamacare's Unpopularity Rises Among Uninsured | National Review Online

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