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    Re: Will obamacare make dem's lose senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    If they actually work the bugs out of the ACA that soon, then it will be the Republicans who will take a hit, but, then, they'll start convincing the voters that the whole thing was their idea, or that the fixes were all made by Republicans.

    If it remains the mess it is now, then it will be the Democrats who take a hit, but, they'll blame the Republicans for the continued mess.

    and, whether the Senate remains Democrat or goes Republican, nothing much will change. The same BS will continue to issue from Congress, and that august body will continue to earn single digit approval ratings.
    You may be right, the senate hinges on what happens in the coming months with obamacare. So far it looks like it will just get worse.

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    Re: Will obamacare make dem's lose senate

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    You may be right, the senate hinges on what happens in the coming months with obamacare. So far it looks like it will just get worse.
    It may or may not. It could get better too.

    Do Republicans hope it will get worse?
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    Re: Will obamacare make dem's lose senate

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    This is really interesting and really hopeful for anti dems like me.


    "For Democrats, the politics of the health care law are creating a death spiral of their own. For the White House to protect its signature initiative, it needs to maintain a Democratic Senate majority past 2015. But to do so, Majority Leader Harry Reid needs to insulate vulnerable battleground-state Democrats, who are all too eager to propose their own fixes to the law that may be politically satisfying, but could undermine the fundamentals of the law.
    Race-by-race polling conducted over the last month has painted a grim picture of the difficult environment Senate Democrats are facing next year. In Louisiana, a new state survey showed Landrieu's approval rating is now underwater; she tallied only 41 percent of the vote against her GOP opposition. In Arkansas, where advertising on the health care law began early, Sen. Mark Pryor's approval sank to 33 percent, a drop of 18 points since last year. A new Quinnipiac survey showed Sen. Mark Udall of Colorado, who looked like a lock for reelection last month, in a dead heat against little-known GOP opponents. Even a Democratic automated poll from Public Policy Polling showed Sen. Kay Hagan of North Carolina running neck-and-neck against Republican opposition, with her job disapproval spiking over the last two months. These are the types of numbers that wave elections are made of.


    For Democrats, the politics of the health care law are creating a death spiral of their own. For the White House to protect its signature initiative, it needs to maintain a Democratic Senate majority past 2015. But to do so, Majority Leader Harry Reid needs to insulate vulnerable battleground-state Democrats, who are all too eager to propose their own fixes to the law that may be politically satisfying, but could undermine the fundamentals of the law.
    Race-by-race polling conducted over the last month has painted a grim picture of the difficult environment Senate Democrats are facing next year. In Louisiana, a new state survey showed Landrieu's approval rating is now underwater; she tallied only 41 percent of the vote against her GOP opposition. In Arkansas, where advertising on the health care law began early, Sen. Mark Pryor's approval sank to 33 percent, a drop of 18 points since last year. A new Quinnipiac survey showed Sen. Mark Udall of Colorado, who looked like a lock for reelection last month, in a dead heat against little-known GOP opponents. Even a Democratic automated poll from Public Policy Polling showed Sen. Kay Hagan of North Carolina running neck-and-neck against Republican opposition, with her job disapproval spiking over the last two months. These are the types of numbers that wave elections are made of.
    I doubt he has done the Democrats much good in the short term and the economy would certainly be growing faster without aca. So he has reduced their chances. Will it be enough to lose? I think it would be better to work the elections and not rely on victory.

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    Re: Will obamacare make dem's lose senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    It may or may not. It could get better too.

    Do Republicans hope it will get worse?
    Can't speak for reps but I just don't see how it can't get worse, it is in a death spiral.

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    Re: Will obamacare make dem's lose senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    It may or may not. It could get better too.

    Do Republicans hope it will get worse?
    With the PPACA employer mandate, affecting the vast majority of the "private" medical care insurance market, looming right before the 2014 election (unless the king decrees otherwise) it seems like a good bet.
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    Re: Will obamacare make dem's lose senate

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I doubt he has done the Democrats much good in the short term and the economy would certainly be growing faster without aca. So he has reduced their chances. Will it be enough to lose? I think it would be better to work the elections and not rely on victory.

    On that I agree.

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    Re: Will obamacare make dem's lose senate

    Never underestimate the ability of the republicants to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: Will obamacare make dem's lose senate

    The trouble with this poll is that 'Obamacare' will not be on the ballot but rather 'some candidate'. Regardless of how the electorate of a state feels about ACA the 'non-democrat' person on the ballot MUST be electable. Their electability hinging on not screwing up too badly while campaigning or having significant 'skeletons' in their closet.
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    Re: Will obamacare make dem's lose senate

    Yes, Obamacare will cost the Dems the Senate.....also due to them not being able to transfer funds this election cycle from the DNPF to the DCSS. They also have not paid off their Debts from Obama party time.

    This will limit their ads on air.

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    Re: Will obamacare make dem's lose senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    I don't think one issue is going to decide every election, because there are other issues at play. In wv and ky for example the democrats can talk about the recent chemical spill and talk about the faliure to provide oversight on the company at fault. Michigan is no slam dunk for the democrats, but they can still put up a fight on the issue of the economy. In colarado I think udall can pull off a win by being front and center on the issue of the NSA.
    I listed Colorado because I had its ACA approval and disapproval. Gun control in Colorado will probably take top issue over the ACA there. In Kentucky with its state run exchange, things are going smoothly and McConnell has very high disapproval numbers. Beside tea party candidate Bevins is going to challenge Mitch in the primaries which could be very bloody. I would give Grimes an excellent chance of winning Mitch's seat if this happens. In WV Capito the republican had an 8 point lead over the Dem and the trend was her way as she was expanding her lead prior to the spill. Also in WV what hurts the Democrats, maybe more than the spill helps them is their war on coal. Coal is what provides a lot of the livelihood to WV.

    Michigan is an unusual case, Iowa will remain Democratic, Brown hasn't decided whether to run in NH or not, Shaheen leads all other Republicans by around 10 points. It is much too early to tell, but if I had to make a prediction today I would say a 5 seat gain for the GOP. Which would leave the senate tied at 50 each and the Dems still in control.
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