View Poll Results: Which are better, public or private polls?

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Thread: Public voting vs. secret ballot; which is better and why?

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    Re: Public voting vs. secret ballot; which is better and why?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    I've never understood why this website allows for guests to vote. Every other internet forum I've ever been a part of requires you to log in to vote. Yes, in most cases, anyone can create an additional account, but doing so takes several more steps than just clearing the browser's cookies.
    It's advertisement really. It allows new people to get to know the site and give a bit of input. Makes them feel more included. We've had several people join up for that very reason.
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    Re: Public voting vs. secret ballot; which is better and why?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Here on DP polls may be set up where voters selections are secret or where votes are published along with each voters user name. As someone who works in a field where market research is conducted, polling data on consumer preferences is collected, I realize anonymity is important if ACCURATE feedback is desired.

    Extreme example: ask 100 people do they ever secretly want to cheat on their spouse whether they plan to ever give into that temptation or not in a poll where respondents' identities will not be disclosed, I'd bet you would get double digits (at least 10%) saying yes. However, ask the exact same question to the exact same respondents in a poll where as a courtesy, a copy of their response will be emailed to their spouse, children, next door neighbor and church to be published in the church bulletin; I doubt there will be very many yes votes. I think this would be because whenever you publish the identities of voters as a condition of voting, you inadvertently change the intent of the voter from giving their honest feedback to maintaining their own image.

    I always presumed people understood this but again, research is part of my job. We get polls, both public and private, all the time here. On a couple of occasions I've even seen posts expressing frustration that a poll is private and I've never understood that.

    Which are better, public or private polls and why?
    If its a poll in the poll section then the polls should be public due to the fact non-members can vote and anyone can log off close their browser and open it to vote as many times as they want.If its in any of the sections then it doesn't matter if its private or public since only members can vote.

    If you are talking actual polls to vote for elected officials and ballot issues then it should remain anonymous in order to protect voters against angry opponents.
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    Re: Public voting vs. secret ballot; which is better and why?

    As far as voting in a DP poll is concerned I have no issue with my name being attached to my vote. I have no reason to hide from what my belief is and if I didn't want anyone to know I would have just refrained from voting.

    As far as national polls or elections are concerned my only issue is being solicited by campaigns or company's endlessly once my info is out there. As a result of my inbox being filled in the past I no longer participate in online or phone polls.

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    Re: Public voting vs. secret ballot; which is better and why?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovebug View Post
    I would like to know if, in fact, guests can vote in an anonymous vote before answering.
    I just tried logging out and voting in this poll, and it let me do it, so I can confirm that it does let guests vote in anonymous polls.
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    Re: Public voting vs. secret ballot; which is better and why?

    Public, because I want to see who my enemies are so that I can have them smite to the ground!

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    Re: Public voting vs. secret ballot; which is better and why?

    Personally, I have no problem with anyone knowing my selections in any poll here on DP - I'm comfortable and confident in myself. That said, it's pretty clear that all of us here have a pretty high level of anonymity as it is on DP - I'm CanadaJohn so you know I'm in Canada and I'm John - otherwise, you basically know little or nothing about me - in fact, there's no guarantee I'm Canadian or John, although I am.
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    Re: Public voting vs. secret ballot; which is better and why?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    It's advertisement really. It allows new people to get to know the site and give a bit of input. Makes them feel more included. We've had several people join up for that very reason.
    Ah I see. I still disagree with it, but if it is the owner's decision, it is his/her/their decision.
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    Re: Public voting vs. secret ballot; which is better and why?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Personally, I have no problem with anyone knowing my selections in any poll here on DP - I'm comfortable and confident in myself. That said, it's pretty clear that all of us here have a pretty high level of anonymity as it is on DP - I'm CanadaJohn so you know I'm in Canada and I'm John - otherwise, you basically know little or nothing about me - in fact, there's no guarantee I'm Canadian or John, although I am.
    Wow, I thought you were from Brazil. Shows you what I know.
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    Re: Public voting vs. secret ballot; which is better and why?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Here on DP polls may be set up where voters selections are secret or where votes are published along with each voters user name. As someone who works in a field where market research is conducted, polling data on consumer preferences is collected, I realize anonymity is important if ACCURATE feedback is desired.

    Extreme example: ask 100 people do they ever secretly want to cheat on their spouse whether they plan to ever give into that temptation or not in a poll where respondents' identities will not be disclosed, I'd bet you would get double digits (at least 10%) saying yes. However, ask the exact same question to the exact same respondents in a poll where as a courtesy, a copy of their response will be emailed to their spouse, children, next door neighbor and church to be published in the church bulletin; I doubt there will be very many yes votes. I think this would be because whenever you publish the identities of voters as a condition of voting, you inadvertently change the intent of the voter from giving their honest feedback to maintaining their own image.

    I always presumed people understood this but again, research is part of my job. We get polls, both public and private, all the time here. On a couple of occasions I've even seen posts expressing frustration that a poll is private and I've never understood that.

    Which are better, public or private polls and why?
    In the specific case of DP, all polls are effectively private - all you reveal on a public poll is your username.

    The difference between the private and public polls here on DP, however, is that you must log in to vote on a private poll, but any guest can vote on a public one - in fact you can vote multiple times as a guest, I think. This has been used to stuff public polls in the past, I believe.


    If you're talking about RL polls, secret ballot is always the way to go - or at least, only the voter themselves should have the option to reveal their choices.
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