View Poll Results: Do you support school choice?

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    Re: Do you support school choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    You're not "depleting" funds from the public school since the student (cost) disappears with the funding. And the parents can send their child to a school with a system optimized for the child's needs. Optimized=more efficient. Not to mention removing the burden from the public school.
    Those costs are not really a true cost per child. As someone already stated, transportation is a huge cost. That money can be used toward something else in a private school since many won't transport the child. Same goes with special education costs. Those costs are mandated and if there is not enough money to meet those mandates out of the special education budget, the costs often come out of the regular education budget. Then you have other unfunded mandated costs like the NCLB Act has pushed on the public schools.

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    Re: Do you support school choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    You're not "depleting" funds from the public school since the student (cost) disappears with the funding.....
    Public school funds would be depleted because public schools have many fixed costs for building maintenance and utilities, non-teaching staffing, administration etc. It would take several years of reduced enrollment and a lot of process to lay off the unneeded employees and sell the under used and unused properties. Public schools also have mandates to provide special education and disability access for the students that need it, and those students are unlikely to be attractive to private schools since many of them would bring down the test scores and/or cost more to accommodate and educate. Also, the cost of instruction for a class of ten is roughly the same as for a class of thirty since it still just one teacher doing the work.
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    Re: Do you support school choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Sad to see you had to find a typo to prove some lame joke. Is that all you have?
    No, that is not all I have.
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    Re: Do you support school choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Those costs are not really a true cost per child. As someone already stated, transportation is a huge cost. That money can be used toward something else in a private school since many won't transport the child. Same goes with special education costs. Those costs are mandated and if there is not enough money to meet those mandates out of the special education budget, the costs often come out of the regular education budget. Then you have other unfunded mandated costs like the NCLB Act has pushed on the public schools.
    Well, if all the kids bail, what are they transporting?
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    Re: Do you support school choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Public school funds would be depleted because public schools have many fixed costs for building maintenance and utilities, non-teaching staffing, administration etc. It would take several years of reduced enrollment and a lot of process to lay off the unneeded employees and sell the under used and unused properties. Public schools also have mandates to provide special education and disability access for the students that need it, and those students are unlikely to be attractive to private schools since many of them would bring down the test scores and/or cost more to accommodate and educate.
    The decrease in students will decrease much of those ancillary costs.
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    Re: Do you support school choice?

    The government should not be involved in education in the first place. Saying that, anything that helps to eliminate the government monopoly on education is at least worth consideration.

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    Re: Do you support school choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Well, if all the kids bail, what are they transporting?
    They don't all bail. Public schools still have to pay for the costs of transporting those who stay but with a smaller pool of money. That means something will have to be cut from the general education budget that could have gone toward learning. Same goes with such things as heating a building. You still have to heat the building but with less money. They don't stop heating if the funds are depleted but pull from something that could have gone toward learning.

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    Re: Do you support school choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    The decrease in students will decrease much of those ancillary costs.
    False.

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    Re: Do you support school choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    The decrease in students will decrease much of those ancillary costs.
    Only some of the costs and it would take years to make the required changes. Also the public schools would lose state and federal matching funds that are paid to school districts on a per-student basis.

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    Re: Do you support school choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    I think it is inevitable that the price of private schools will increase with widespread availability of vouchers because it will increase demand and raise the amount many people will be willing to the pay (voucher value plus what they can afford compared to what they can afford only without vouchers).
    The idea is that it will increase competition. However, it's government money, and thus no effort money, that will only cause prices to increase regardless of any increase in competition it might cause either directly or indirectly.

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