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    Re: Do you support school choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Raise their standards or change their clientele? Most people I know pay for private school because they want their children with other children who are high achieves rather than to mix them in with problem kids. That is why these vouchers create this sort of stratification. That is exactly what happened in Chile.
    So what do you do with the "problem kids" who aren't being challenged enough and are acting out based upon it. Your system will leave them trapped in a school that can do nothing for them
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    Re: Do you support school choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Apple to orang comparison. A specialized school that can cater to a specific clientele is quite different than one that must take them all in and give the same specialized services a specialized school gives. Now try that with cut funding.
    By the way, had you attended a private school...you probably would have spelled orange correctly. Just sayin'.
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    Re: Do you support school choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    That wouldn't be segregation within a school but between schools, unless you meant within a given school system.



    Ok this is happening whether we stick with the current system or go to the voucher system, at least with how you are claiming how the voucher system would work. So this is a non-point with regards to whether or not we go to a voucher system.



    Wah, bloody wah. There exist no right to not be insulted and people choose to discriminate against others for all kinds of things in all areas. How is this a point at all?



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    If they want the public money, then there are strings attached.
    1. I meant that without discussing how segregation impacts the quality of education, unpopular minorities are harmed just by being denied an opportunity to attend a particular school because of the color of their skin, religion etc.

    2. Currently it is illegal for public schools to discriminate based on race, religion etc., although there still is much de facto segregation. Vouchers will enable even more middle class white families to afford private schools, with some of those schools having discriminatory admission policies. This will leave the poor, especially poor minorities, stuck with even more under-funded schools than we have today.

    3. There are many good reasons why racial, religious etc discrimination is illegal. Everyone has a right to be free from illegal discrimination by government, larger businesses and business establishments open to the public. Vouchers are a scheme to bypass those prohibitions on discrimination for the benefit of whites, Christians and more prosperous families.

    4. The law is unclear and unsettled (see post#501), but it is likely that private schools will be able to continue their discriminatory policies even if they accept vouchers.

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    Re: Do you support school choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    By the way, had you attended a private school...you probably would have spelled orange correctly. Just sayin'.
    Oh come on now fair's fair. Are you telling me that you've never posted a typo before?
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    Re: Do you support school choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Think about what you just said.
    Yes, depleting funds from public schools and expecting them to perform like a specialized school (which take those funds) is a set up for failure and not a fair comparison.

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    Re: Do you support school choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    Oh come on now fair's fair. Are you telling me that you've never posted a typo before?
    Hey, one shot one kill.
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    Re: Do you support school choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    That wouldn't be segregation within a school but between schools, unless you meant within a given school system.



    Ok this is happening whether we stick with the current system or go to the voucher system, at least with how you are claiming how the voucher system would work. So this is a non-point with regards to whether or not we go to a voucher system.



    Wah, bloody wah. There exist no right to not be insulted and people choose to discriminate against others for all kinds of things in all areas. How is this a point at all?



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    If they want the public money, then there are strings attached.
    Those laws are limited in scope when dealing with learning disabilities. Only IDEA covers very specific mandates that addresses the education of a child with learning disabilities. That of course is just one example of no strings attached. How about mandated state testing which is used as a high stake metric? What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
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    Re: Do you support school choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Yes, depleting funds from public schools and expecting them to perform like a specialized school (which take those funds) is a set up for failure and not a fair comparison.
    You're not "depleting" funds from the public school since the student (cost) disappears with the funding. And the parents can send their child to a school with a system optimized for the child's needs. Optimized=more efficient. Not to mention removing the burden from the public school.
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    Re: Do you support school choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    So what do you do with the "problem kids" who aren't being challenged enough and are acting out based upon it. Your system will leave them trapped in a school that can do nothing for them
    Oh, I see. Problem kids act out because they are not being challenged Not what I call 'problem'. Let's try and stick a child with behavioral issues in a posh private school and their problem behavior starts interfering with other children. I say they last less than a month.

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    Re: Do you support school choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    By the way, had you attended a private school...you probably would have spelled orange correctly. Just sayin'.
    Sad to see you had to find a typo to prove some lame joke. Is that all you have?

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