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    Re: Do you support school choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Well, nobody except for every parent who sends their child to a private school, and has to pay tuition to that school as well as having to pay taxes to support the failing public schools that they aren't using.
    Nobody HAS to send their child to a private school. That's the whole point of public schools.
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    Re: Do you support school choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tetelestai View Post
    Most definitely YES!!!!!! It is the ONLY way to get children out of their failing schools and for them to get an good education. It would also FORCE the teachers unions to stop siding against the community the teachers serve (the operating word there is "serve") as they are responsible to give a reasonable return on the communities investment. They side against ensuring their teachers are providing for the education of the children. Where tenure is used to ensure a teachers job, even if they don't do anything to provide for a proper learning atmosphere for the children to learn. They even protect pedophiles in some cases. This would all change if there was school choice and student left to go to better schools with the tax dollars following them to those schools. Competition is everything!
    i've seen repeated bashing of the teachers' unions, as if they were the problem causing poor educational outcomes
    but look at the student performance scores from states with teachers unions and those without, and for the most part, states with teachers' unions performed better - according to student testing outcomes - than schools in states that are without such unions
    that tells me the teachers' unions are not the problem with the ed system
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    Re: Do you support school choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Nobody HAS to send their child to a private school. That's the whole point of public schools.
    The whole point of public schools is to nationalize a market.

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    Re: Do you support school choice?

    I'm surprised you do not allow students to switch public schools, it is how it works here. I see no reason they should not be able to. What if a school does not offer a course you need?

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    Re: Do you support school choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Its obviously subjective. However, I see infrastructure as investments a community, state, or nation makes that benefit all of its citizens and foster economic growth: roads, airports, railways, and an educated workforce.
    I can see the others as being considered infrastructure, but I'm not sure I can buy that an educated workforce is infrastructure, as a reason for socialized schools. Why not a well-shod workforce? Or a workforce with good manners or proper religion morals?

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    Re: Do you support school choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Where I live we vote on school taxes and those taxes are used only for schools. I'm sorry you chose to live in an area where that is not true. Take some personal responsibility - move if you don't like where you live.
    I would think that you vote on local funds that are dedicated for schools, but I can only presume that you also get state funds which theoretically could follow the student, and federal funds which also could theoretically follow the student. Perhaps it is those funds which could follow the student and if there is any difference between the local school option for parents, then they could either pay or get back the difference.

    Perhaps this could be one of those compromise thingies people keep referring to.

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    Re: Do you support school choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    I can see the others as being considered infrastructure, but I'm not sure I can buy that an educated workforce is infrastructure, as a reason for socialized schools. Why not a well-shod workforce? Or a workforce with good manners or proper religion morals?
    Frankly I think those comparisons are absurd. Companies typically don't choose to locate in a city or state because of good manners or the stylish shoes worn by the residents. Just like good roads, airports, sea ports, railways, energy infrastructure and so on, a skilled an educated workforce directly relates to the economic competitiveness of a city, state, or nation. For example, why do you think tech companies locate in areas like the Research Triangle, Silicon Valley, or Seattle? It is because of the skilled and educated workforce in those areas. It is no different than a shipping company operating out of Memphis because of the transportation infrastructure there.
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    Re: Do you support school choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    Yes, we all understand that. We are, on this political discussion board, talking about the idea of changing that choice through changes in legislation.



    Yes, they are socialized firms, and as such, they cannot compare to private firms. Private firms are forced to innovate in order to produce higher quality at lower cost. Firms that cannot satisfy customer demand are driven from the market, because customers withhold funds by favoring alternatives.
    Again - theory. There is no evidence that charter schools on the whole are any more innovative or produce higher quality than public schools on the whole.

    But I would welcome that evidence.
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    Re: Do you support school choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    I can see the others as being considered infrastructure, but I'm not sure I can buy that an educated workforce is infrastructure, as a reason for socialized schools. Why not a well-shod workforce? Or a workforce with good manners or proper religion morals?
    Companies rely on on pools of skilled labour and is another despite having the highest taxes in North America, Quebec's economy is still growing. Quebec is a centre of high tech and knowledge industries because their school system is the best in Canada and can turn out well educated graduates.

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    Re: Do you support school choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Again - theory. There is no evidence that charter schools on the whole are any more innovative or produce higher quality than public schools on the whole.

    But I would welcome that evidence.
    Any particular charter school could perform better or worse. However, competition between firms is what eliminates failures and allows successful firms to continue operating.

    If it turns out that the local public school offers the best quality at the lowest price, then that is the school that will attract the most customers.

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