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    Re: Which economic system is the best to you?

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    No, not 'fully. At all. Ever. We had Socialism for the briefest flicker of time. That's as close as anyone ever got.

    It comes down, as per usual, to throwing around definitions with no knowledge of the subject matter.
    Take it easy on the Scotsmen.

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Yes a couple of right wing economists thinks he prolonged the depression, yet hardly anyone alive a time feels the same way. He was by far, by far, the most beloved president in U.S. history. People thought of him as practically one notch below Jesus. The man was even Reagan's hero at the time. When he came to office the hands off approach had failed so miserably that there were literally food riots.

    The right-wing New Deal conniption fit - Salon.com
    Hoover had a hands on approach, which is partially why it started. And Roosevelt literally locked up Japanese Americans, so I can see why democrats support him. Only Lincoln was a worse president, which is saying a lot because Lincoln killed 600,000 Americans and locked up tens of thousands more without due process.

    Salon is not a citable source.
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    Re: Which economic system is the best to you?

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    No, not 'fully. At all. Ever. We had Socialism for the briefest flicker of time. That's as close as anyone ever got.

    It comes down, as per usual, to throwing around definitions with no knowledge of the subject matter.
    I know what socialism is and what communism is. I think the problem with communism is that it goes against human instinctual behavior so much that it just doesn't work unless its compelled by a totalitarian state.
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    Re: Which economic system is the best to you?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Yes a couple of right wing economists thinks he prolonged the depression, yet hardly anyone alive a time feels the same way. He was by far, by far, the most beloved president in U.S. history. People thought of him as practically one notch below Jesus. The man was even Reagan's hero at the time. When he came to office the hands off approach had failed so miserably that there were literally food riots.

    The right-wing New Deal conniption fit - Salon.com
    Just shows how much the wool had been pulled over the American people eyes.

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    Re: Which economic system is the best to you?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    Just shows how much the wool had been pulled over the American people eyes.
    Dude, who has the wool pulled over their eyes? Some revisionist ideologues today, or the people that actually lived through the Great Depression themselves and elected and then reelected FDR 4 times? I mean come on, they lived though it, they saw the New Deal in action, they loved FDR. Ask anyone, anyone that is still alive today that lived through the Depression what they thought of the New Deal and FDR.
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    Re: Which economic system is the best to you?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Dude, who has the wool pulled over their eyes? Some revisionist ideologues today, or the people that actually lived through the Great Depression themselves and elected and then reelected FDR 4 times? I mean come on, they lived though it, they saw the New Deal in action, they loved FDR. Ask anyone, anyone that is still alive today that lived through the Depression what they thought of the New Deal and FDR.
    Can I ask the locked up Japanese Americans?

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    Re: Which economic system is the best to you?

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Take it easy on the Scotsmen.
    That was never an option. As luck would have it, they're more concerned with your sponsorship.

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    Re: Which economic system is the best to you?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    I know what socialism is and what communism is.
    Not since you believe they could so much as be attempted 'nationally', to the exclusion of the global necessity that defines them.

    I think the problem with communism is that it goes against human instinctual behavior so much that it just doesn't work unless its compelled by a totalitarian state.
    I think the problem with internet forums is, there's no obligation to avail oneself of education in advance.

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    Re: Which economic system is the best to you?

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Can I ask the locked up Japanese Americans?
    The vast majority of Japanese Americans vote Democrat today, so go ahead and ask them. The fact is, FDR is by far the most beloved president in U.S. history. Lincoln and FDR had more to deal with than any other presidents in U.S. history by a wide margin. Every other presidency has been a cakewalk compared to what those two men had to contend with, and aside with a few total nutjobs might claim, the are widely regarded by the public and by historians as two of the greatest presidents in U.S. history.
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    Re: Which economic system is the best to you?

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    Not since you believe they could so much as be attempted 'nationally', to the exclusion of the global necessity that defines them.
    Communism requires a state, or a lot of capital to set it up.

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    Re: Which economic system is the best to you?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    The vast majority of Japanese Americans vote Democrat today, so go ahead and ask them. The fact is, FDR is by far the most beloved president in U.S. history. Lincoln and FDR had more to deal with than any other presidents in U.S. history by a wide margin. Every other presidency has been a cakewalk compared to what those two men had to contend with, and aside with a few total nutjobs might claim, the are widely regarded by the public and by historians as two of the greatest presidents in U.S. history.
    Ah yes, that wonderful sense of (false) security you get from being in the consensus.

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