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    Re: Which economic system is the best to you?

    Capitalism offers everyone a piece of the pie if they are willing to make an effort

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    Re: Which economic system is the best to you?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    Why do communist always say that Communism has never happen in the world before?
    At a country scale it never has. Many tribes are communist (small 'c') except for outside dealings.


    The words Communism and Communist (capitalized) generally refers to various types of socialism that have been tried, the USSR and China, for example. They were/are not communist.
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    Re: Which economic system is the best to you?

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    Re: Which economic system is the best to you?

    Why only 2 choices? I say 2 because economically, socialism and communism are the same. The primary difference between the two is social/government structure, not economics.

    There are also:

    Closed Market Capitalism
    Corporatism
    Regulated Capitalism

    Probably quite a few others.

    Personally, I prefer competitive, lightly regulated, open-market capitalism.
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    Re: Which economic system is the best to you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Capitalism offers everyone a piece of the pie if they are willing to make an effort
    Yup. Enough effort to win and set the rules. Or is there someone, e.g. a referee, that sets the rules. I can make Capitalism work for me if I get to set the rules. Otherwise, I'll keep what I've got.

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    Re: Which economic system is the best to you?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    Yup. Enough effort to win and set the rules. Or is there someone, e.g. a referee, that sets the rules. I can make Capitalism work for me if I get to set the rules. Otherwise, I'll keep what I've got.
    The rules of capitalism are fixed:

    • The means of production are privately owned.
    • Transfers of property titles are voluntary.
    • The government's function is protecting the person property and individual liberty of every citizen.


    Those are the rules. If anyone makes up other rules, then it isn't capitalism; it's something else.

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    Re: Which economic system is the best to you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    The rules of capitalism are fixed:

    • The means of production are privately owned.
    • Transfers of property titles are voluntary.
    • The government's function is protecting the person property and individual liberty of every citizen.


    Those are the rules. If anyone makes up other rules, then it isn't capitalism; it's something else.
    That's not just capitalism, it's destructive capitalism. That system will eat it's citizenry alive.
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    Re: Which economic system is the best to you?

    2 other communists? where are you brothers! allow me to share my potato

    But on a serious note I was completely unaware there are any other communists since it's rather uncommon I was raised as a communist and I adore the system and think my former country vietnam is doing really well for itself could I ask how you guys found and now follow it?

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    Re: Which economic system is the best to you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Capitalism offers everyone a piece of the pie if they are willing to make an effort
    Rewards in capitalism are determined by the ones who hold capital. They don't like sharing the pie, which is why capitalism in history trends more and more toward the welfare state, to "indulge" this unwillingness to share the pie by compensating for its deficits.

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Secure property means thinking far ahead, unsecure property means thinking very shortly ahead.
    There are lots of ways to think ahead. Armed guards, for example.

    Besides that, although it is undeniably better for corporations to take short term losses to guard long term viability, by their nature they are incapable of doing that. Not consistently, or for any sustainable period of time. For every 99/100 that agree, 1 will not. That 1 will take every shortcut it can in order to acquire a larger market share. Eventually, the others have to act similarly to continue existing at all, forget about the distant future. Regulatory agreements that arise freely mean nothing among competitors who always stand to gain something by breaking the regulations their rivals are adhering to.

    The only thing that can stop that -- who force the 1 to concur with the 99 -- is regulatory body that makes any attempt at opportunistic economic expansion far, far worse for the perpetrator than the potential gains of flouting the 99.
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    Re: Which economic system is the best to you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Rewards in capitalism are determined by the ones who hold capital.
    ...like everyone with an IRA or a 401k.

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