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Thread: If you could tommorrow vote on gun amendment?

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    Re: If you could tommorrow vote on gun amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    It's not that stupid. Right now 6 states are effectively "constitutional carry" and several others have recently proposed legislation to become that way.
    Which doesn't make it a good idea, just because a couple of states have done it.
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    Re: If you could tommorrow vote on gun amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Really?

    Arizona has been a Constitutional Carry state since 2010 with no ill effects. In fact, in 2012 we saw the lowest homicide rate we've had since 1965.
    Arizona Crime Rates 1960 - 2012
    Correlation doesn't equate to causation, but even if it did here then I'd say what worked in Arizona may not work elsewhere

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    Re: If you could tommorrow vote on gun amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    not just you
    waiting for you to explain to me how I'm paranoid.

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    Re: If you could tommorrow vote on gun amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Extremes are where gun-paranoids on dp go with these threads .
    Extremes are where you find your actual beliefs.

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    Re: If you could tommorrow vote on gun amendment?

    I wouldnt vote cuz both these options suck.


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    Re: If you could tommorrow vote on gun amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Really?

    Arizona has been a Constitutional Carry state since 2010 with no ill effects. In fact, in 2012 we saw the lowest homicide rate we've had since 1965.
    Arizona Crime Rates 1960 - 2012
    the violent crime rate has gone up in each of the succeeding years.

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    Re: If you could tommorrow vote on gun amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil E Buster View Post
    the violent crime rate has gone up in each of the succeeding years.
    The increase in violent crime is miniscule and all three years are STILL less than any year since 1971.

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    Re: If you could tommorrow vote on gun amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    The increase in violent crime is miniscule and all three years are STILL less than any year since 1971.

    That's because all crime has gone down dramatically in the past 20 years.
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    Re: If you could tommorrow vote on gun amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Correlation doesn't equate to causation, but even if it did here then I'd say what worked in Arizona may not work elsewhere
    Well, if you look at the crime stats for the states that are Constitutional Carry you won't see any of them with a significant increase in homicide or violent crime since the law passed.

    Maybe it wouldn't work everywhere but it hasn't been tried everywhere yet and in the places where it has been tried it doesn't seem to do any harm.

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    Re: If you could tommorrow vote on gun amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Extremes are where you find your actual beliefs.
    Um...what?

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