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  • Fact - Glenn Beck reported the woman's story as fact

    11 64.71%
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    Re: Is this Media Matters claim fact, or fiction?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Like I said, the story was an Acorn employee saying she killed her husband. That is to show Acorn hires mentally disturbed people.

    No normal person is going to brag about shooting her husband in the head.

    Fox didn't need to check out her story, the fact that she said that was the story.
    What is your opinion of people posing as a pimp and a ho with a story about bringing minors into a life of prostitution?
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    Re: Is this Media Matters claim fact, or fiction?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    What she said on the video was correctly presented as a fact. The truthfulness of her admission was correctly questioned. There is no lie there, regardless of how much you wish it were so.
    So facts are not important to Fox.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: Is this Media Matters claim fact, or fiction?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    I don't know about you all, but the answer is obvious to me.

    How can it possibly be a case of Beck reporting her story as fact, when he says he doesn't know a) if her husband was killed b) if he is actually dead c) if she even had a husband and d) says he doesn't know if she just made the story up...

    It's a slam dunk... It's Media Matters fiction.
    I seem to remember back when Glen Beck was part of Fox News Channel, Beck would have a disclaimer on every episode that went something like this. > "Don't take my word for being fact, do your own research."<

    Kind of comparable to Wikipedia's disclaimer.

    But Beck did do America a favor back in 2009, he exposed Marxist and other communist with in the Obama administration and Obama was forced to remove them from his administration. But Obama continued his association with these radical leftist.

    On the "Discover the Networks" disclaimer they go further pointing out Media Matters.

    >" It distinguishes DiscoverTheNetworks from political attack sites posing as databases, like Media Matters, Media Transparency, the Southern Poverty Law Center's "Intelligence Project," and People For the American Way's "Right Wing Watch" -- which make no attempt to correct factual inaccuracies and mischaracterizations on their sites when these are pointed out to them..."<

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    Re: Is this Media Matters claim fact, or fiction?

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Of course there isnt. When you pesent something intended to decieve, it is a lie, even on Fox.
    I'm sure then that you'll have no problem proving there was an intent to deceive.
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    Re: Is this Media Matters claim fact, or fiction?

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    So facts are not important to Fox.
    They presented the facts.
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    Re: Is this Media Matters claim fact, or fiction?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    I realize this is an old story, but it was recently revived and unfortunately the discussion reached a stalemate... so I thought I'd let the members of the forum decide the issue.

    Media Matters back in 2009 posted a story in which the headline read:

    "Fox News reports fake murder story from ACORN video as fact"


    An ACORN worker said on an undercover video that 10 year ago, she had shot and killer her abusive husband. The very first example they used to support their allegation was from Glenn Beck's show the day the video was released. Media Matters posted a partial transcript from the show where he had played the video and was discussing it's content. At the end of that partial transcript, they included the following quote from Beck:

    "...but we haven't been even able to confirm from the state of California whether Tresa's husband from 10 years ago was killed, or if he's dead, or if she even had a husband. Did she make the story up? I don't know."


    So the question is....

    Is that quote from Glenn Beck an example of Fox News reporting that woman's murder claim as fact, or is this an example of Media Matters fiction?



    The video of that woman's claim is included in the YouTube clip of that segment from Glenn Beck's show, which you can view here:
    Prostitute Hannah and Pimp expose even more ACORN corruption in San Bernardino with Tresa Kaelke - YouTube
    I see. So Beck did the "I'm just asking questions" gimmick in lieu of actual journalism. Why do you watch him?

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    Re: Is this Media Matters claim fact, or fiction?

    The fact they aired it is proof. What did MM make up?
    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    I'm sure then that you'll have no problem proving there was an intent to deceive.
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    Re: Is this Media Matters claim fact, or fiction?

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    The fact they aired it is proof. What did MM make up?
    You claimed they intended to deceive their audience. I'm asking you to back up your claim.
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    Re: Is this Media Matters claim fact, or fiction?

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    What is your opinion of people posing as a pimp and a ho with a story about bringing minors into a life of prostitution?
    what about the price of tea in china?

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    Re: Is this Media Matters claim fact, or fiction?

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    The fact they aired it is proof. What did MM make up?
    Fox News reports fake murder story from ACORN video as fact

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