View Poll Results: Is the Media Matters story below fact or fiction?

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  • Fact - Glenn Beck reported the woman's story as fact

    11 64.71%
  • Fiction - The Media Matters assertion is false. Beck did not report the woman's claim as fact

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    Re: Is this Media Matters claim fact, or fiction?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Technically he did not report it as fact, he was "just asking questions," which is typical of Fox News and Glenn Beck in particular. This way, they aren't technically lying to you, they just get to report lies. The other common method is "People are saying Barack Obama ate a puppy yesterday." Yes, technically some people are saying that. Like the crazy person you just had on your show, Hannity. But if your organization was a legitimate news organization you would have bothered to check and see if Obama had actually eaten a puppy, discovered he hadn't, and then not reported it as news.

    Using the same ACORN situation, Fox News' Morning Dip****s show had James O'Keefe on the air soon after the "scandal." O'Keefe was dressed in the pimp outfit you saw in the video on Fox News. One of the idiots on the morning show mentioned he'd worn that in the ACORN office. O'Keefe didn't deny it, but he didn't affirm it either. Technically O'Keefe didn't lie. Now, anyone could have known for a fact that O'Keefe hadn't actually worn that outfit in the ACORN office. This information was out there. The impression from the video tape was false. His excuse was "Oh that was just B-roll stuff!" But Fox n Friends didn't check.

    Because nobody on that network is actually a journalist. They are a network devoted to pushing an agenda and will do anything and everything to further that agenda. They'll even actually tell lies, deliberately. They fought a wrongful termination lawsuit regarding that, and their defense was that lying on the news isn't illegal, so firing reporters for refusing to lie isn't wrongful termination covered by whistleblower laws.

    So, did Glenn Beck lie? Not technically. But the effect and intention is still to deceive you.


    Not technically.....that works. As none can add thing else to Becks words. Other than what they were.

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    Re: Is this Media Matters claim fact, or fiction?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Look, this poll question is cut and dry... There is no half truth or gray area here.

    The mistake that people keep making here, is believing that this video and subsequent story was predicated on her claims being true... That's just not the case here. Assuming it was known prior to the release of the video that her story was fabricated, her lying and telling clients off the streets that she shot and killed her husband, is wholly inappropriate behavior, and brings into question how this woman was ever allowed to hold such a position in the first place.

    Don't you see, it was still a legitimate story either way, otherwise they wouldn't have aired it prior to verifying her claim.
    We get it man. You're just not a whole truth big picture kind of guy.

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    Re: Is this Media Matters claim fact, or fiction?

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    The only consistency I see here is that people are not seeing the story as cut and dry as you do. Yet you refuse to consider anything other then "everyone else has got it wrong".



    You are changing your complaint here. Are you challenging the legitimacy of the story or the accuracy of MM? If it's the story, then what story? The story of a murderer working for ACORN or of a liar working for ACORN? and it is only a legitimate story if you get your facts right and your accusations straight. Otherwise you're just throwing a handful of **** at the wall to see what sticks.
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    Re: Is this Media Matters claim fact, or fiction?

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    You are changing your complaint here.
    Not at all... I was simply replying to what someone else had said.

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    Re: Is this Media Matters claim fact, or fiction?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil E Buster View Post
    We get it man. You're just not a whole truth big picture kind of guy.
    I disagree but respect you opinion... All I'm saying to you is, it certainly doesn't apply to this thread, which is all I'm centered on here.

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    Re: Is this Media Matters claim fact, or fiction?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    this is like watching a bowery bum tell a hobo to wash his ass
    It seems you have a host of views, but you haven't voted on the question posed in this thread. If it doesn't interest you, than why bother posting anything at all?

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    Re: Is this Media Matters claim fact, or fiction?

    Well, the media matters story that I saw there was relating to several Fox stories on air...Hannity, Van Sustern, Carl Rove. None of which mention Beck, and go on at length about the story, as well as that Acorn worker also discussing other illegal things with the fake prostitute.

    So, yes, Fox was reporting a fake story as fact.

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    Re: Is this Media Matters claim fact, or fiction?

    Quote Originally Posted by JumpinJack View Post
    Well, the media matters story that I saw there was relating to several Fox stories on air...Hannity, Van Sustern, Carl Rove. None of which mention Beck, and go on at length about the story, as well as that Acorn worker also discussing other illegal things with the fake prostitute.

    So, yes, Fox was reporting a fake story as fact.
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    Re: Is this Media Matters claim fact, or fiction?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Was he asking questions or answering them when he stated:

    "...but we haven't been even able to confirm from the state of California whether Tresa's husband from 10 years ago was killed, or if he's dead, or if she even had a husband. Did she make the story up? I don't know."
    Yes. The question mark was the giveaway, if you were wondering.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Is this Media Matters claim fact, or fiction?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Was he asking questions or answering them when he stated:

    "...but we haven't been even able to confirm from the state of California whether Tresa's husband from 10 years ago was killed, or if he's dead, or if she even had a husband. Did she make the story up? I don't know."
    Why even run the story if you haven't been able to confirm it. Good question. What other possible motive could there be????? Hmmmmmm?
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