Technically he did not report it as fact, he was "just asking questions," which is typical of Fox News and Glenn Beck in particular. This way, they aren't technically lying to you, they just get to report lies. The other common method is "People are saying Barack Obama ate a puppy yesterday." Yes, technically some people are saying that. Like the crazy person you just had on your show, Hannity. But if your organization was a legitimate news organization you would have bothered to check and see if Obama had actually eaten a puppy, discovered he hadn't, and then not reported it as news.
Using the same ACORN situation, Fox News' Morning Dip****s show had James O'Keefe on the air soon after the "scandal." O'Keefe was dressed in the pimp outfit you saw in the video on Fox News. One of the idiots on the morning show mentioned he'd worn that in the ACORN office. O'Keefe didn't deny it, but he didn't affirm it either. Technically O'Keefe didn't lie. Now, anyone could have known for a fact that O'Keefe hadn't actually worn that outfit in the ACORN office. This information was out there. The impression from the video tape was false. His excuse was "Oh that was just B-roll stuff!" But Fox n Friends didn't check.
Because nobody on that network is actually a journalist. They are a network devoted to pushing an agenda and will do anything and everything to further that agenda. They'll even actually tell lies, deliberately. They fought a wrongful termination lawsuit regarding that, and their defense was that lying on the news isn't illegal, so firing reporters for refusing to lie isn't wrongful termination covered by whistleblower laws.
So, did Glenn Beck lie? Not technically. But the effect and intention is still to deceive you.
One of you will end up here next!
Glenn Beck runs a scandalous story on a political organization, then notes afterward they they have no idea it is true.
It's like me going on a lengthy tirade about how Wiseone is a seat sniffer, but at the very end going "but be aware I have no idea if this character destroying story is true or not".
Classic slimeball journalism.
And not to be outdone, media matters run a false headline stating that fox news (not even glenn beck) reported it as fact (which they clearly didn't do)
Fact is, neither of you guys have any respect for truth. You both are partisans hawking the wares of some 2-bit dealer that no one of intelligence has any interest in
Last edited by Dr. Chuckles; 01-28-14 at 07:39 PM.
How about a fair comparison like this:
It's like watching a video of Wiseone telling people in his office he's a seat sniffer and then me going on a lengthy tirade about how Wiseone is a seat sniffer, but at the very end going "but be aware I have no idea if his character destroying story is true or not".
See the difference?
Ding ding ding... We have a winner....media matters run a false headline stating that fox news (not even glenn beck) reported it as fact (which they clearly didn't do)
That's either a lie, or you have me confused with someone else.Fact is, neither of you guys have any respect for truth.
You may not like my posts, my political beliefs, or me personally, but you won't find anyone on this forum that respects and adhere's to the truth more than I do. It's by far the most important value I hold sacred, especially when it comes to discussing politics.
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"...but we haven't been even able to confirm from the state of California whether Tresa's husband from 10 years ago was killed, or if he's dead, or if she even had a husband. Did she make the story up? I don't know."
The mistake that people keep making here, is believing that this video and subsequent story was predicated on her claims being true... That's just not the case here. Assuming it was known prior to the release of the video that her story was fabricated, her lying and telling clients off the streets that she shot and killed her husband, is wholly inappropriate behavior, and brings into question how this woman was ever allowed to hold such a position in the first place.
Don't you see, it was still a legitimate story either way, otherwise they wouldn't have aired it prior to verifying her claim.
The only consistency I see here is that people are not seeing the story as cut and dry as you do. Yet you refuse to consider anything other then "everyone else has got it wrong".Look, this poll question is cut and dry... There is no half truth or gray area here.
You are changing your complaint here. Are you challenging the legitimacy of the story or the accuracy of MM? If it's the story, then what story? The story of a murderer working for ACORN or of a liar working for ACORN? and it is only a legitimate story if you get your facts right and your accusations straight. Otherwise you're just throwing a handful of **** at the wall to see what sticks.Don't you see, it was still a legitimate story either way, otherwise they wouldn't have aired it prior to verifying her claim.
"Judge a man by his questions rather than his answers" - Voltaire
"There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow men. True nobility lies in being superior to your former self" -Hemingway