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    Re: Is this Media Matters claim fact, or fiction?

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Oh Grim, if everything were only as simple as you would like it to be.
    He either expressed to his viewers that her claims had not been validated, or he didn't. If he did, the Media Matters claim is false... If he didn't, then the Media Matters claim is true... It doesn't get any more simple than that.

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    Re: Is this Media Matters claim fact, or fiction?

    Did Fox check out the story before they reported it? Another Fauxrage. No big deal.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    He either expressed to his viewers that her claims had not been validated, or he didn't. If he did, the Media Matters claim is false... If he didn't, then the Media Matters claim is true... It doesn't get any more simple than that.
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    Re: Is this Media Matters claim fact, or fiction?

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Typical Faux.
    Obviously you believe that saying to his audience that he didn't know if any of the claims she made were true, constitues claiming that they were in fact true.

    If that's what you honestly believe, than that's what you honestly believe... It's your credibility that's on the line here, not mine.

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    Re: Is this Media Matters claim fact, or fiction?

    You are talking about someone else's creditability. That is funny right there. But speaking of credibility, do you think maybe Faux ought to check out a story before they run with it? Maybe?
    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Obviously you believe that saying to his audience that he didn't know if any of the claims she made were true, constitues claiming that they were in fact true.

    If that's what you honestly believe, than that's what you honestly believe... It's your credibility that's on the line here, not mine.
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    Re: Is this Media Matters claim fact, or fiction?

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Did Fox check out the story before they reported it? Another Fauxrage. No big deal.
    No, they didn't check her story. Media Matters knew because they talked with ACORN. Can you see the picture? Media Matters knew, but Fox News didn't. LOL

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    Re: Is this Media Matters claim fact, or fiction?

    Fox probably knew but didnt care, just went for the outrage. I bet there are still fauxites that would defend it to this day...oh wait...
    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    No, they didn't check her story. Media Matters knew because they talked with ACORN. Can you see the picture? Media Matters knew, but Fox News didn't. LOL
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    Re: Is this Media Matters claim fact, or fiction?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Obviously you believe that saying to his audience that he didn't know if any of the claims she made were true, constitues claiming that they were in fact true.

    If that's what you honestly believe, than that's what you honestly believe... It's your credibility that's on the line here, not mine.
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    Re: Is this Media Matters claim fact, or fiction?

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    ...do you think maybe Faux ought to check out a story before they run with it? Maybe?
    The media didn't verify the documents and claims of Edward Snowden before reporting on them, and this was no different.

    If the video would have been shot by Fox News or someone on Beck's team, then I would have expected them to verify whether she was a killer, or just a disturbed pathological liar before going public with the video. But this video was not only shot by an independent source, it had already been released to the public hours before so was already out there, making it fair game to discuss.

    Whether true or false, her telling perfect strangers that she shot and killed her husband was a perfectly legitimate story to report on, because it makes her either a killer, or a total psycho, neither of which is acceptable behavior for an employee of a government funded community service agency, that offers free advice and assistance to the public.

    What you choose to ignore, is that the story wasn't "ACORN worker shot and killed her husband"... The story was "ACORN worker claims she shot and killed her husband". Irregardless, the question posed is whether Beck expressed to his audience that her claims had not been validated, or he said nothing, leading them to believe that what she said on that tape was in fact true, just as both yourself and the Media Matters story claim.

    Logic and truth are not the enemy... Give them a try sometime.

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    Re: Is this Media Matters claim fact, or fiction?

    Come on man, when that story aired millions of Fox heads bobbleheaded, sucking in every word, well except "claims" and the story confirmed their bias about how corrupt "them" people that work for ACORN are. Here is the proof . Fox had it outrage and did not check out it story. NO INTEGRITY. Rationalize away.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    The media didn't verify the documents and claims of Edward Snowden before reporting on them, and this was no different.

    If the video would have been shot by Fox News or someone on Beck's team, then I would have expected them to verify whether she was a killer, or just a disturbed pathological liar before going public with the video. But this video was not only shot by an independent source, it had already been released to the public hours before so was already out there, making it fair game to discuss.

    Whether true or false, her telling perfect strangers that she shot and killed her husband was a perfectly legitimate story to report on, because it makes her either a killer, or a total psycho, neither of which is acceptable behavior for an employee of a government funded community service agency, that offers free advice and assistance to the public.

    What you choose to ignore, is that the story wasn't "ACORN worker shot and killed her husband"... The story was "ACORN worker claims she shot and killed her husband". Irregardless, the question posed is whether Beck expressed to his audience that her claims had not been validated, or he said nothing, leading them to believe that what she said on that tape was in fact true, just as both yourself and the Media Matters story claim.

    Logic and truth are not the enemy... Give them a try sometime.
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    Re: Is this Media Matters claim fact, or fiction?

    Quote Originally Posted by BMCM View Post
    What does it really matter at this time.

    because a bunch of partisans need something to argue with each other about?

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