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Is the Media Matters story below fact or fiction?


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Nothing in that article states that neither Glenn Beck, a member of his staff, or an employee of Fox News didn't contact officials in California, and/or hadn't heard back from them.

Please point out what part of that article led to this current delusion of yours?
There is no delusion Grim, the article plainly points out the information was readily available in San Bernardino, CA. Either Beck lied or he didn't try very hard to get the information. Has he ever hear from those sources that he supposedly contacted in California.




















































































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There is no delusion Grim, the article plainly points out the information was readily available in San Bernardino, CA. Either Beck lied or he didn't try very hard to get the information. Has he ever hear from those sources that he supposedly contacted in California.

Pete ol' buddy, your political blindness has made a fool of you again. A little common sense goes a long way pal and the first thing common sense should have told you, was to check dates and times... You know, like the following dates and times:

Tuesday, 9/15/2009
5:00 PM EDT (2PM PDT) - Glenn Beck's show begins and airs the video.

Wednesday, 9/16/2009
12:24 AM EDT (9/15/2009 09:24 PM PDT) The story you linked to is published
3:03 PM EDT (12:03 PM PDT) - Media Matters publishes story that falsely claims "Fox News reports fake murder story from ACORN video as fact"



The story you linked to that was published a little after midnight on the east coast Tuesday night, reports that the the controversy began Tuesday:

A San Bernardino woman Tuesday was caught up in a national controversy surrounding the community organizing group ACORN when she appeared on a hidden-camera video bragging about killing her husband.

Since she claimed on the video to have killed her husband, two San Bernardino police homicide detectives interviewed her at the office Tuesday

So Pete, explain how this information was readily available to Beck, when the police didn't even interview her, or contact any of her ex-husbands, until they learned of the woman's claims Tuesday, through the video that aired on Beck's show?

Now would you care to retract your false allegation, or are you going to embrace this load of manufactured liberal garbage, just like you've done with every other false claim you've made on this thread?



Delusion anyone?
 
Pete ol' buddy, your political blindness has made a fool of you again. A little common sense goes a long way pal and the first thing common sense should have told you, was to check dates and times... You know, like the following dates and times:

Tuesday, 9/15/2009
5:00 PM EDT (2PM PDT) - Glenn Beck's show begins and airs the video.

Wednesday, 9/16/2009
12:24 AM EDT (9/15/2009 09:24 PM PDT) The story you linked to is published
3:03 PM EDT (12:03 PM PDT) - Media Matters publishes story that falsely claims "Fox News reports fake murder story from ACORN video as fact"



The story you linked to that was published a little after midnight on the east coast Tuesday night, reports that the the controversy began Tuesday:



So Pete, explain how this information was readily available to Beck, when the police didn't even interview her, or contact any of her ex-husbands, until they learned of the woman's claims Tuesday, through the video that aired on Beck's show?

Now would you care to retract your false allegation, or are you going to embrace this load of manufactured liberal garbage, just like you've done with every other false claim you've made on this thread?



Delusion anyone?

Okay, I wasn't clear enough. My point was once the local authorities in San Bernardino, CA knew about the woman's claims it was easy to find the truth. And of course Beck had all the time in the world to check it out. Oh, he hyped the tape on his radio program early in the morning. There is no way he could not have gotten the truth if he really wanted to. He really did not care whether claims were true or not. Why would he, he's not a news person, he's a talk show host. He presented that story as though it was fact. Antbody with a lick of common sense knows it.
 
Okay, I wasn't clear enough. My point was once the local authorities in San Bernardino, CA knew about the woman's claims it was easy to find the truth. And of course Beck had all the time in the world to check it out. Oh, he hyped the tape on his radio program early in the morning. There is no way he could not have gotten the truth if he really wanted to. He really did not care whether claims were true or not. Why would he, he's not a news person, he's a talk show host. He presented that story as though it was fact. Antbody with a lick of common sense knows it.

I tell you what Pete, that's some story you've concocted there. It's almost as laughable as some of your others, especially when I notice that nowhere in it, did I see a retraction for the blatant fabrication I just busted you for spewing:

It looks like Beck was fibbing to his audience about contacting California and not hearing back from officials in California.

...the article plainly points out the information was readily available in San Bernardino, CA. Either Beck lied or he didn't try very hard to get the information.

Nope... not a retraction, apology, or even an admission that your accusations were false... All we get is another one of your fabricated fantasies, designed to defend those lying liberal scumbags over at Media Matters. I call it a fabricated fantasy, because this pile of crap is no more based in reality, than any of the others you've cranked out on this thread...

But there is a bright side Pete... It seems mac2 is ruled by the same partisan hatred and lives in the same fantasy world as you, because he's taken a liking to your false assertions and the colorful yarns you spin.
 
I tell you what Pete, that's some story you've concocted there. It's almost as laughable as some of your others, especially when I notice that nowhere in it, did I see a retraction for the blatant fabrication I just busted you for spewing:





Nope... not a retraction, apology, or even an admission that your accusations were false... All we get is another one of your fabricated fantasies, designed to defend those lying liberal scumbags over at Media Matters. I call it a fabricated fantasy, because this pile of crap is no more based in reality, than any of the others you've cranked out on this thread...

But there is a bright side Pete... It seems mac2 is ruled by the same partisan hatred and lives in the same fantasy world as you, because he's taken a liking to your false assertions and the colorful yarns you spin.

It seems to me that mak2 understands that there was no reason who Glenn Beck would show the video without checking the veracity of the video first. And while you continue to say Media Matters lied and spew you hate toward them, it a matter of fact they were able to find the truth about her story and Glenn Beck with all the power of Fox News behind him wasn't able to find it.

Why was it necessary for Glenn Beck to show the video before finding the truth?
 
It seems to me that mak2 understands that there was no reason who Glenn Beck would show the video without checking the veracity of the video first. And while you continue to say Media Matters lied and spew you hate toward them, it a matter of fact they were able to find the truth about her story and Glenn Beck with all the power of Fox News behind him wasn't able to find it.

You know Pete, I've let that line of crap go for a long time now, but since you keep repeating it, it's now time for it to go...

1. Media Matters got their "confirmation" from an ACORN press release issued AFTER it was played on Beck's show. You will find the quotes those dishonest pricks used here. As we already know, authorities in California didn't even take a look at the issue until after the video appeared on Fox.

2. Why would FOX have contacted ACORN in the first place? They knew the video was real and that the crazy woman said those things, so they didn't need to confirm that... And you don't call a persons employer to check out whether one of their workers story of killing someone is true, you contact law enforcement, which they did and you can't prove otherwise.


DO YOU GET IT NOW PETE?

Of course you don't and the odds are astronomical that you ever will.

So please do yourself, and everyone else around here a favor, and stop with the disinformation. Show a little integrity and stop sticking up for those dishonest ****tards over at Media Matters.

Why was it necessary for Glenn Beck to show the video before finding the truth?

When are you going to wake up out of that Media Matters trance you're in and realize that Beck had the damned truth...

A woman working for ACORN tells people off the streets that she killed her husband. If it turns out to be true, she's either a psycho murderer, or killer that has no business telling people who walk into her office that crap, therefore no business working at ACORN... If it's not true and she's a lying, she's a mentally disturbed nut on the government payroll that has no business working at ACORN... Either way, it's definitely a story, and it was told accurately.

P.S. Guess that means you don't have the honesty to retract your false claims... Nice job.
 
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When are you going to wake up out of that Media Matters trance you're in and realize that Beck had the damned truth...

A woman working for ACORN tells people off the streets that she killed her husband. If it turns out to be true, she's either a psycho murderer, or killer that has no business telling people who walk into her office that crap, therefore no business working at ACORN... If it's not true and she's a lying, she's a mentally disturbed nut on the government payroll that has no business working at ACORN... Either way, it's definitely a story, and it was told accurately.

P.S. Guess that means you don't have the honesty to retract your false claims... Nice job.
Sorry you're wrong, if the story had validity, it would have been covered by the news side of Fox News, but in fact it was not. There is no proof that Fox, Beck or anyone in his staff tried to contact anyone in California about the woman's story. Again, here is Media Matters claim:

After Andrew Breitbart posted a video of an ACORN employee in San Bernardino, California, claiming that she had killed her ex-husband, Fox News' Glenn Beck, Karl Rove, Greta Van Susteren, and Sean Hannity promoted it without fact-checking it or indicating that they had contacted ACORN for a response to the claim. In fact, ACORN stated that the employee made up the story because she recognized that the actors in the video "were clearly playing with" her so she "matched their false scenario with her own false scenarios," and, indeed, the San Bernardino Police Department has said her claim is false.​

The truth is that those hosts reported the the story as being true.
 
Sorry you're wrong, if the story had validity, it would have been covered by the news side of Fox News, but in fact it was not. There is no proof that Fox, Beck or anyone in his staff tried to contact anyone in California about the woman's story. Again, here is Media Matters claim:


I don't know why I bother... You are living, breathing political talking point that's completely incapable of forming your own thoughts and opinions. You spew what ever your masters at TPM and Media Matters tell you to without question every damned time...

I'll prove it now by observing how the following goes in one ear and out the other:.

The story had political significance, and would have only made the hard news if the woman had killed het husband.

After Andrew Breitbart posted a video of an ACORN employee in San Bernardino, California, claiming that she had killed her ex-husband, Fox News' Glenn Beck, Karl Rove, Greta Van Susteren, and Sean Hannity promoted it without fact-checking it or indicating that they had contacted ACORN for a response to the claim. In fact, ACORN stated that the employee made up the story because she recognized that the actors in the video "were clearly playing with" her so she "matched their false scenario with her own false scenarios," and, indeed, the San Bernardino Police Department has said her claim is false.​


What was the story they reported Pete?
A: That a woman from ACORN told strangers off the street she planned and killer her husband.

Did the woman make those claims?
A: Yes

Were those comments inappropriate whether true of just a case of her being a lying nut job?
A: Yes

Was the story "Woman kills her husband"?
A: No


There you go Pete... There was nothing to fact check before presenting it.



The truth is that those hosts reported the the story as being true.

A proven lie, demonstrated with Beck's own words.... You know it, I know it, and other than the politically brainwashed robots who graduated from Media Matters Institute for narrow political perspectives, everyone knows it.


So, are you going to retract the false allegations you made yesterday, or are you going to continue to cling to those falsehoods until Media Matters tells you it's ok to be honest?

I'm talking about these falsehoods:

It looks like Beck was fibbing to his audience about contacting California and not hearing back from officials in California.

the article plainly points out the information was readily available in San Bernardino, CA.
 
I don't know why I bother... You are living, breathing political talking point that's completely incapable of forming your own thoughts and opinions. You spew what ever your masters at TPM and Media Matters tell you to without question every damned time...

I'll prove it now by observing how the following goes in one ear and out the other:.

The story had political significance, and would have only made the hard news if the woman had killed het husband.




What was the story they reported Pete?
A: That a woman from ACORN told strangers off the street she planned and killer her husband.

Did the woman make those claims?
A: Yes

Were those comments inappropriate whether true of just a case of her being a lying nut job?
A: Yes

Was the story "Woman kills her husband"?
A: No


There you go Pete... There was nothing to fact check before presenting it.





A proven lie, demonstrated with Beck's own words.... You know it, I know it, and other than the politically brainwashed robots who graduated from Media Matters Institute for narrow political perspectives, everyone knows it.


So, are you going to retract the false allegations you made yesterday, or are you going to continue to cling to those falsehoods until Media Matters tells you it's ok to be honest?

I'm talking about these falsehoods:

Are you ****ing kidding me, a woman from ACORN claims she killed her husband and its only significant if its true? LMMFAO That's a GD lie, its would be a hard news story no matter what and you know it.

I'll give you one thing, the woman shouldn't told that story because I don't condone lying. She should have asked them leave or to stop with their ridiculous questions. But that doesn't change the fact that those Fox personalities presented the story as fact. I would guess that a large portion of the audience thought it was factual.

Beck's own words, did very little to dispel the idea the woman killed her husband, it actually gives credibility to it:

BECK: OK. Let's see if I have this right. She's -- she never spanked her kids, but she did shoot her husband dead. She doesn't spank her kids, but you can bring in 13-year-old illegal aliens and have them be hookers.

I mean, where do you even begin, America? This is twisted, bizarre, macabre -- I mean, is this theater? I'm not a lawyer. I'm not a jury. But, gosh, even to me, it seems like this is a potential admission of murder. And the way she was describing doing some groundwork beforehand, you know, so everybody in town knew exactly what was going on, a case might be made for premeditated murder.

In fairness, I don't understand people who stay in abusive relationships. I don't. I get it. I get it. And maybe a jury might conclude that it was justifiable homicide. I don't know, but we haven't been even able to confirm from the state of California whether Tresa's husband from 10 years ago was killed, or if he's dead, or if she even had a husband. Did she make the story up? I don't know. Nobody's asking questions. See if the mainstream media will follow this one.​

I say you're in a dream world if you don't think he was selling the idea that he was trying to convince his audience the story was true. Media Matters is correct they reported a fake murder story from ACORN video as fact. So sorry Grim, I am not retracting a GD thing.

Oh, here is Beck's radio program from the morning of Sept 15, 2009. :peace

Glenn Beck: Worst Acorn video yet – Glenn Beck
 
Are you ****ing kidding me, a woman from ACORN claims she killed her husband and its only significant if its true? LMMFAO That's a GD lie, its would be a hard news story no matter what and you know it.

I'll give you one thing, the woman shouldn't told that story because I don't condone lying. She should have asked them leave or to stop with their ridiculous questions. But that doesn't change the fact that those Fox personalities presented the story as fact. I would guess that a large portion of the audience thought it was factual.

Beck's own words, did very little to dispel the idea the woman killed her husband, it actually gives credibility to it:

BECK: OK. Let's see if I have this right. She's -- she never spanked her kids, but she did shoot her husband dead. She doesn't spank her kids, but you can bring in 13-year-old illegal aliens and have them be hookers.

I mean, where do you even begin, America? This is twisted, bizarre, macabre -- I mean, is this theater? I'm not a lawyer. I'm not a jury. But, gosh, even to me, it seems like this is a potential admission of murder. And the way she was describing doing some groundwork beforehand, you know, so everybody in town knew exactly what was going on, a case might be made for premeditated murder.

In fairness, I don't understand people who stay in abusive relationships. I don't. I get it. I get it. And maybe a jury might conclude that it was justifiable homicide. I don't know, but we haven't been even able to confirm from the state of California whether Tresa's husband from 10 years ago was killed, or if he's dead, or if she even had a husband. Did she make the story up? I don't know. Nobody's asking questions. See if the mainstream media will follow this one.​

I say you're in a dream world if you don't think he was selling the idea that he was trying to convince his audience the story was true. Media Matters is correct they reported a fake murder story from ACORN video as fact. So sorry Grim, I am not retracting a GD thing.

Oh, here is Beck's radio program from the morning of Sept 15, 2009. :peace

Glenn Beck: Worst Acorn video yet – Glenn Beck

OK, it's time for a little review....
 
OK, it's time for a little review....

From The TVNewser:
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Glenn Beck aired another of the James O’Keefe ACORN videos yesterday. This time, Tresa Kaelke, an ACORN employee in San Bernardino, CA tells O’Keefe, who was posing as a pimp, that she once was an escort and got away with killing her abusive husband.


After playing the clip, Beck gets riled up, pondering: “Maybe a jury might conclude that it might be justifiable homicide. I don’t know. But we haven’t even been able to confirm from the state of California, whether Tresa’s husband from 10 years ago was killed, or if he’s dead or if she even had a husband. Did she make the story up? I don’t know. Nobody’s asking questions.”


It appears, Beck’s team didn’t ask questions. But two reporters in San Bernardino did. From their story in the Press-Enterprise:
Since she claimed on the video to have killed her husband, two San Bernardino police homicide detectives interviewed her at the [ACORN] office Tuesday. Police said they have been in contact with Kaelke’s former husbands and the homicide claims do not appear accurate.
One of her ex-husbands, Ronald Kaelke said he was unaware of any investigation or that his ex-wife had made any claims of murder.
“As far as her murdering an ex-husband, that’s news to me,” Ronald Kaelke said. “She’s definitely got problems and goes off the wall sometimes.”

So what does Fox News have to say about Beck playing video of an “off the wall” ACORN employee apparently making things up?


Joel Cheatwood, FNC’s SVP of Development tells TVNewser, “As Glenn has steadfastly maintained throughout the show’s coverage of this latest ACORN scandal, the individuals on the tapes are not the real story.”


Beck, who has criticized the national media for not covering this and other stories, does not host a ‘news’ show but rather is part of the programming division of the channel. None of Fox’s news shows aired this particular tape.


Cheatwood says the real tale of these tapes is the “erratic and unconscionable behavior demonstrated” on them, which has already led to major changes for the organization.


Also, if you look closely at the video you’ll also notice the time stamp (lower left in image above) is off — by about 4 years. Cheatwood tells us, “We’re aware of it – according to the filmmaker, he never changed the date stamp in his camera and has confirmed all the video was shot in 2009.”


And by the way, last night’s show — the one that featured the video of Tresa Kaelke — was Beck’s highest rated program since he joined Fox News in January. Something tells me we may see more tapes like this, whether what’s on them is factual or not.

Glenn Beck & The Woman Who Didn’t Kill Her Husband…or Maybe She Did - TVNewser



 
Here's a list of the false, misleading and/or irrelevant statements you've made on this thread Pete, based on the information I obtained from the links you provided:


1. "There is no proof that Fox, Beck or anyone in his staff tried to contact anyone in California about the woman's story"
Irrelevant - This has nothing to do with the false accusation made by Media Matters that "Fox News reports fake murder story from ACORN video as fact"


2. "there was no reason Glenn Beck would show the video without checking the veracity of the video first."
False - The video was real. The woman indeed made the statement on the video, and in doing so displayed very abnormal behavior.
Irrelevant - See #1



3
. "they (Media Matters) were able to find the truth about her story and Glenn Beck with all the power of Fox News behind him wasn't able to find it."
False - Media Matters didn't find out anything until after the video was shown on his show, just as Beck and Fox did. Police investigated after they were told about the public video that day and MM issued a press release hours after the video appeared on Fox.
Irrelevant - See #1



4
. "once the local authorities in San Bernardino, CA knew about the woman's claims it was easy to find the truth."
False - See #3
Irrelevant - They didn't interview her or her ex-husbands until hours after it was aired on Beck's show. Also see #1



5
. "He really did not care whether claims were true or not"
Irrelevant - The story was her making the claim, not the verosity of it. Also see #1


6
. "He (Beck) presented that story as though it was fact."
False - He stated clearly that he didn't know if it was true or not, and never once did he ever claim it was. Also see statement below in large font


7. "the article plainly points out the information was readily available in San Bernardino, CA"
False - See #3
Irrelevant - See #1



8
. "Has he ever hear from those sources that he supposedly contacted in California."
Irrelevant - See #1


9. "It looks like Beck was fibbing to his audience about contacting California and not hearing back from officials in California."
False - There is no evidence to support that accusation.
Irrelevant - See #1



10
. "He never specifically said he contacted or is waiting for confirmation from California"
Irrelevant - Beside the fact you're parsing words, see #1


11
. "if this was a legitimate story, why didn't Fox's news readers cover it?"
Irrelevant - See #1


12
. "She recognized they were playing with her, so she offered her own false scenario."
Misleading - She didn't make this claim until after the video was shown on Fox.
Irrelevant - See #1



13
. "You stated that Beck said he didn't know if her story was true which he did. But certainly gave credence to it."
Misleading - He speculated on the implications and ramification of her statement if true.
False - See #6 and also see statement below in large font



14. "I think that qualifies as showing the video as fact."
False - Stating that you don't know if something is true, is not stating it as fact under any circumstances. Also see statement below in large font


15
. "It's very possible Fox never requested verification of the woman's claims"
False - There is no evidence to support that allegation.
Irrelevant - See #1



16
. "...they showed it as fact just like they did with the other James O'Keefe's videos"
Misleading - They showed what was said by the ACORN workers, which was factual.
False - They showed as fact she made the claim, not that the claim she made was fact. Also, see statement below in large font



17. "No, they didn't check her story."
False - They did check it, but hadn't received word back from California.
Irrelevant - See #1 and #5



18
. "Media Matters knew because they talked with ACORN."
Misleading - They obtained ACORN's press release which wasn't issued until hours after the video appeared on Beck's show.
False - See #3
Irrelevant - See #1



19
. "Media Matters knew, but Fox News didn't."
False - See #3
Irrelevant - See #1



20
. "The mere fact they showed the video is proof that they all reported it as fact."
False - See #6, #14, #16 and statement below in large font


21
. "They reported the phony story as fact and there is no way out"
False - See #6, #14, #16 and statement below in large font


22
. "Isn't strange that Media Matters knew thew truth about the woman's story and the mighty Fox News channel did not know?"
False - See #3
Irrelevant - See #1



Now here's the only factual statement that you've made that has any relevance to this issue:

"You stated that Beck said he didn't know if her story was true which he did."

From your own words Pete, Beck stated he didn't know if the story she told was true. Stating that you don't know if something is true, is not stating it as fact under any circumstances.



There are 2 things that are crystal clear Pete... That Media Matters lied in order to smear Glenn Beck/Fox News, and that you continue to defend and support that lie with your false, misleading and irrelevant posts.
 
From The TVNewser:
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Glenn Beck aired another of the James O’Keefe ACORN videos yesterday. This time, Tresa Kaelke, an ACORN employee in San Bernardino, CA tells O’Keefe, who was posing as a pimp, that she once was an escort and got away with killing her abusive husband.


After playing the clip, Beck gets riled up, pondering: “Maybe a jury might conclude that it might be justifiable homicide. I don’t know. But we haven’t even been able to confirm from the state of California, whether Tresa’s husband from 10 years ago was killed, or if he’s dead or if she even had a husband. Did she make the story up? I don’t know. Nobody’s asking questions.”


It appears, Beck’s team didn’t ask questions. But two reporters in San Bernardino did. From their story in the Press-Enterprise:
Since she claimed on the video to have killed her husband, two San Bernardino police homicide detectives interviewed her at the [ACORN] office Tuesday. Police said they have been in contact with Kaelke’s former husbands and the homicide claims do not appear accurate.
One of her ex-husbands, Ronald Kaelke said he was unaware of any investigation or that his ex-wife had made any claims of murder.
“As far as her murdering an ex-husband, that’s news to me,” Ronald Kaelke said. “She’s definitely got problems and goes off the wall sometimes.”

So what does Fox News have to say about Beck playing video of an “off the wall” ACORN employee apparently making things up?


Joel Cheatwood, FNC’s SVP of Development tells TVNewser, “As Glenn has steadfastly maintained throughout the show’s coverage of this latest ACORN scandal, the individuals on the tapes are not the real story.”


Beck, who has criticized the national media for not covering this and other stories, does not host a ‘news’ show but rather is part of the programming division of the channel. None of Fox’s news shows aired this particular tape.


Cheatwood says the real tale of these tapes is the “erratic and unconscionable behavior demonstrated” on them, which has already led to major changes for the organization.


Also, if you look closely at the video you’ll also notice the time stamp (lower left in image above) is off — by about 4 years. Cheatwood tells us, “We’re aware of it – according to the filmmaker, he never changed the date stamp in his camera and has confirmed all the video was shot in 2009.”


And by the way, last night’s show — the one that featured the video of Tresa Kaelke — was Beck’s highest rated program since he joined Fox News in January. Something tells me we may see more tapes like this, whether what’s on them is factual or not.

Glenn Beck & The Woman Who Didn’t Kill Her Husband…or Maybe She Did - TVNewser




Want me to add this to the pile of irrelevant crap you've posted? I could you know, because nothing in here changes anything at all. It's just more of the same irrelevant garbage you keep repeating that means absolutely nothing at all... It does not change the Media Matters lie, nor does it change the fact you keep defending that lie.

So, I'm going to assume that you stand behind your false assertions last night, because you just used a story that made the same bogus claim.
 
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Here's a list of the false, misleading and/or irrelevant statements you've made on this thread Pete, based on the information I obtained from the links you provided:


1. "There is no proof that Fox, Beck or anyone in his staff tried to contact anyone in California about the woman's story"
Irrelevant - This has nothing to do with the false accusation made by Media Matters that "Fox News reports fake murder story from ACORN video as fact"


2. "there was no reason Glenn Beck would show the video without checking the veracity of the video first."
False - The video was real. The woman indeed made the statement on the video, and in doing so displayed very abnormal behavior.
Irrelevant - See #1



3
. "they (Media Matters) were able to find the truth about her story and Glenn Beck with all the power of Fox News behind him wasn't able to find it."
False - Media Matters didn't find out anything until after the video was shown on his show, just as Beck and Fox did. Police investigated after they were told about the public video that day and MM issued a press release hours after the video appeared on Fox.
Irrelevant - See #1



4
. "once the local authorities in San Bernardino, CA knew about the woman's claims it was easy to find the truth."
False - See #3
Irrelevant - They didn't interview her or her ex-husbands until hours after it was aired on Beck's show. Also see #1



5
. "He really did not care whether claims were true or not"
Irrelevant - The story was her making the claim, not the verosity of it. Also see #1


6
. "He (Beck) presented that story as though it was fact."
False - He stated clearly that he didn't know if it was true or not, and never once did he ever claim it was. Also see statement below in large font


7. "the article plainly points out the information was readily available in San Bernardino, CA"
False - See #3
Irrelevant - See #1



8
. "Has he ever hear from those sources that he supposedly contacted in California."
Irrelevant - See #1


9. "It looks like Beck was fibbing to his audience about contacting California and not hearing back from officials in California."
False - There is no evidence to support that accusation.
Irrelevant - See #1



10
. "He never specifically said he contacted or is waiting for confirmation from California"
Irrelevant - Beside the fact you're parsing words, see #1


11
. "if this was a legitimate story, why didn't Fox's news readers cover it?"
Irrelevant - See #1


12
. "She recognized they were playing with her, so she offered her own false scenario."
Misleading - She didn't make this claim until after the video was shown on Fox.
Irrelevant - See #1



13
. "You stated that Beck said he didn't know if her story was true which he did. But certainly gave credence to it."
Misleading - He speculated on the implications and ramification of her statement if true.
False - See #6 and also see statement below in large font



14. "I think that qualifies as showing the video as fact."
False - Stating that you don't know if something is true, is not stating it as fact under any circumstances. Also see statement below in large font


15
. "It's very possible Fox never requested verification of the woman's claims"
False - There is no evidence to support that allegation.
Irrelevant - See #1



16
. "...they showed it as fact just like they did with the other James O'Keefe's videos"
Misleading - They showed what was said by the ACORN workers, which was factual.
False - They showed as fact she made the claim, not that the claim she made was fact. Also, see statement below in large font



17. "No, they didn't check her story."
False - They did check it, but hadn't received word back from California.
Irrelevant - See #1 and #5



18
. "Media Matters knew because they talked with ACORN."
Misleading - They obtained ACORN's press release which wasn't issued until hours after the video appeared on Beck's show.
False - See #3
Irrelevant - See #1



19
. "Media Matters knew, but Fox News didn't."
False - See #3
Irrelevant - See #1



20
. "The mere fact they showed the video is proof that they all reported it as fact."
False - See #6, #14, #16 and statement below in large font


21
. "They reported the phony story as fact and there is no way out"
False - See #6, #14, #16 and statement below in large font


22
. "Isn't strange that Media Matters knew thew truth about the woman's story and the mighty Fox News channel did not know?"
False - See #3
Irrelevant - See #1



Now here's the only factual statement that you've made that has any relevance to this issue:

"You stated that Beck said he didn't know if her story was true which he did."

From your own words Pete, Beck stated he didn't know if the story she told was true. Stating that you don't know if something is true, is not stating it as fact under any circumstances.



There are 2 things that are crystal clear Pete... That Media Matters lied in order to smear Glenn Beck/Fox News, and that you continue to defend and support that lie with your false, misleading and irrelevant posts.
What's crystal clear is that anyone who is not biased would conclude after watching Beck on the his show that day would conclude he presented the woman's murder story as fact.
 
What's crystal clear is that anyone who is not biased would conclude after watching Beck on the his show that day would conclude he presented the woman's murder story as fact.

Very good Pete... Media Matters has taught you well. They lie, and you defend them. Honesty and integrity is for losers, right Pete?


So, are you going to retract your falsehood from last night, or are you still waiting on Media Matters to tell you how to respond?
 
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