View Poll Results: Is the Media Matters story below fact or fiction?

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  • Fact - Glenn Beck reported the woman's story as fact

    11 64.71%
  • Fiction - The Media Matters assertion is false. Beck did not report the woman's claim as fact

    6 35.29%
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Thread: Is this Media Matters claim fact, or fiction?

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    Re: Is this Media Matters claim fact, or fiction?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Tell me about it. The standards have dropped such that one crap journalist can quote another crap journalist site and that somehow qualifies as news.
    Right. But it's worse then that. It's like catty gossip and there is an agenda behind it. An agenda that only serves the people who personally profit from ratings.
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    Re: Is this Media Matters claim fact, or fiction?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I consider all news that's reported "as it's available" to be laziness incarnate. Ratings and the need to be the first to release a scoop is why so much inaccuracy gets spread, and it's why such "journalists" have an increasingly terrible reputation. Add to that the need to cater an ideology to your audience and the format becomes utter garbage. And yes, I consider sites like Huffingtonpost and MM to be just as deplorable.

    They're all brain rot.
    I think as long as the reporters are clear that it's a breaking story it's acceptable.

    But Beck was presenting facts on an opinion show and providing biased commentary, which is fine, but shouldn't be confused with news reporting.
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    Re: Is this Media Matters claim fact, or fiction?

    My mother, and millions like her, believe every word Beck says. If they know enough to look for the fine print, they watch something else.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    I think as long as the reporters are clear that it's a breaking story it's acceptable.

    But Beck was presenting facts on an opinion show and providing biased commentary, which is fine, but shouldn't be confused with news reporting.
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    Re: Is this Media Matters claim fact, or fiction?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Tell me about it. The standards have dropped such that one crap journalist can quote another crap journalist site and that somehow qualifies as news.
    I agree with this.
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    Re: Is this Media Matters claim fact, or fiction?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    I think as long as the reporters are clear that it's a breaking story it's acceptable.
    Right, just as it's also legitimate so long as it's premised under "asking questions." It's no different than fudging the truth so long as you remember to cross your fingers behind your back first. I can't believe literate people who can tie their shoes and remember to put their pants on after their underwear watch this stuff. Unbelievable.

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    Re: Is this Media Matters claim fact, or fiction?

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    He presented a message with the intent to deceive.
    JFC man, you must be joking. Telling viewers that he hadn't received verification of her claims, and saying that he didn't know if her claims were true, is about as counterproductive to deception as it gets.

    How can you expect anyone to take you seriously when you pretend that those statements are meaningless or that they simply don't exist?

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    Re: Is this Media Matters claim fact, or fiction?

    Whats JFC?
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    Re: Is this Media Matters claim fact, or fiction?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Right, just as it's also legitimate so long as it's premised under "asking questions." It's no different than fudging the truth so long as you remember to cross your fingers behind your back first. I can't believe literate people who can tie their shoes and remember to put their pants on after their underwear watch this stuff. Unbelievable.
    Not sure what you mean by "this stuff". The part you quoted was where I referenced news reporting, not opinion shows which I don't watch at all. I do watch the local news.
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    Re: Is this Media Matters claim fact, or fiction?

    Media Matters is a left wing think tank....No more no less.
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    Re: Is this Media Matters claim fact, or fiction?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    Not sure what you mean by "this stuff". The part you quoted was where I referenced news reporting, not opinion shows which I don't watch at all. I do watch the local news.
    "This stuff" = Media Matters, Huffpo, Beck, Malkin, 90% of AM radio, etc.

    But yes, local news has also very much fallen prey to the lazy journalism I described.

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