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    Re: Are you going to warch the State of the Union?

    I missed this. My cable, internet and phone all went out for about 32 hours. I missed that state of the union mess.

    I saw a few clips of Obama saying he would improve the situation of the American without congress. WTF? Was that political talk or is he seriously going to bypass the law to get his way?

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    Re: Are you going to warch the State of the Union?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    He has three years to go and he can do a tremendous amount of more damage with that kind of time to work with.
    He can't do jack squat if Republicans retain control of congress and the Democrats retain control of the Senate. This is the best case scenario. I'm not sure why any true conservative would want a Republican president. Republican presidents historically do things. Calvin Coolidge is the exception. A Republican President usually makes deals with democrats to accomplish things. A Democrat president usually isn't willing to work with Republicans. Neither party can go on a spending spree when you have a democrat in the white house. It's great. There is an exception to that too. If Democrats gain control of the House and the Senate like they did back in 2010. That's when the Affordable Care Act was born. The 2014 election has two possible outcomes for the end of Obama's presidency. Stalemate and a Democratic Party spending spree. Let's hope for stalemate.
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    Re: Are you going to warch the State of the Union?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    He can't do jack squat if Republicans retain control of congress and the Democrats retain control of the Senate..
    With DEMs being out-spent 2-to-1 with House races, they have run up the proverbial white flag.
    Holding serve in the House would be a victory .
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    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    He can't do jack squat if Republicans retain control of congress and the Democrats retain control of the Senate. This is the best case scenario. I'm not sure why any true conservative would want a Republican president. Republican presidents historically do things. Calvin Coolidge is the exception. A Republican President usually makes deals with democrats to accomplish things. A Democrat president usually isn't willing to work with Republicans. Neither party can go on a spending spree when you have a democrat in the white house. It's great. There is an exception to that too. If Democrats gain control of the House and the Senate like they did back in 2010. That's when the Affordable Care Act was born. The 2014 election has two possible outcomes for the end of Obama's presidency. Stalemate and a Democratic Party spending spree. Let's hope for stalemate.
    In case you haven't noticed, he has been able to do a hell of a lot more than jack squat with Republicans in control of the House and Democrats in control of the Senate. He has executive authority over every government department and program and has demonstrated a very strong willingness to circumvent Congress whenever he thinks he can get around it. Congress doesn't write those thousands of regulations that will be included in Obamacare alone, nor does it dictate how those regulations will be enforced. Obama has arbitrarily changed that law for his own convenience several times now and Congress has thus far been helpless or unwilling to seriously challenge him on much of anything.

    Further what he says he intends to do can send shudders throughout the socioeconomic fabric of the nation. Just watch what happens to the stock market when he threatens this action or his intention to do this or that. We already have a crippled economy almost entirely because he refuses to do anything that will help repair it and threatens to veto anything that Congress passes that would repair it.

    We have more dictator than constitutional President at the helm right now. And he is doing and will likely continue to do serious harm to the country.
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    Re: Are you going to warch the State of the Union?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    In case you haven't noticed, he has been able to do a hell of a lot more than jack squat with Republicans in control of the House and Democrats in control of the Senate. He has executive authority over every government department and program and has demonstrated a very strong willingness to circumvent Congress whenever he thinks he can get around it. Congress doesn't write those thousands of regulations that will be included in Obamacare alone, nor does it dictate how those regulations will be enforced. Obama has arbitrarily changed that law for his own convenience several times now and Congress has thus far been helpless or unwilling to seriously challenge him on much of anything.

    Further what he says he intends to do can send shudders throughout the socioeconomic fabric of the nation. Just watch what happens to the stock market when he threatens this action or his intention to do this or that. We already have a crippled economy almost entirely because he refuses to do anything that will help repair it and threatens to veto anything that Congress passes that would repair it.

    We have more dictator than constitutional President at the helm right now. And he is doing and will likely continue to do serious harm to the country.
    Not sure how I feel about the dictator comment, but you are certainly right about him not having an issue with ignoring the Constitution and just doing things his way. It's disturbing to say the least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Not sure how I feel about the dictator comment, but you are certainly right about him not having an issue with ignoring the Constitution and just doing things his way. It's disturbing to say the least.
    Well point well taken on the dictator comment. I did stop short of flat out calling him a dictator. I do believe that he acts more like dictator than constitutional president though.
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    Re: Are you going to warch the State of the Union?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    Well point well taken on the dictator comment. I did stop short of flat out calling him a dictator. I do believe that he acts more like dictator than constitutional president though.
    Well we can totally agree on the point that he is a terribly divisive president and that he ignores what his and the fed gov limitations should be according to the Constitution.

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    Re: Are you going to warch the State of the Union?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    In case you haven't noticed, he has been able to do a hell of a lot more than jack squat with Republicans in control of the House and Democrats in control of the Senate.
    Oh yeah. He hasn't been able to abolish Christianity. He hasn't been able to establish an Islamic theocracy. He hasn't been able to obliterate Israel off of the face of the map. He hasn't been able to tax all of the rich people into poverty. He hasn't been able to establish a communist form of government. Something isn't adding up.

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl
    He has executive authority over every government department and program and has demonstrated a very strong willingness to circumvent Congress whenever he thinks he can get around it.
    When he is he going to destroy America like he has planned to do all along?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl
    Obama has arbitrarily changed that law for his own convenience several times now and Congress has thus far been helpless or unwilling to seriously challenge him on much of anything.
    Who needs congress if Obama can do it all on his own?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl
    Further what he says he intends to do can send shudders throughout the socioeconomic fabric of the nation. Just watch what happens to the stock market when he threatens this action or his intention to do this or that.
    That's fine. Isn't his goal the destruction of the American economy?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl
    We already have a crippled economy almost entirely
    I'll let that statement speak for itself. (Note: This is 2014 not 2008, 2009, 2010 or 2011)

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl
    We have more dictator than constitutional President at the helm right now. And he is doing and will likely continue to do serious harm to the country.
    He sucks at inflicting harm if that is his goal. He has had plenty of time to f*** us over and hasn't been able to accomplish it yet.

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    Re: Are you going to warch the State of the Union?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    In case you haven't noticed, he has been able to do a hell of a lot more than jack squat with Republicans in control of the House and Democrats in control of the Senate. He has executive authority over every government department and program and has demonstrated a very strong willingness to circumvent Congress whenever he thinks he can get around it. Congress doesn't write those thousands of regulations that will be included in Obamacare alone, nor does it dictate how those regulations will be enforced. Obama has arbitrarily changed that law for his own convenience several times now and Congress has thus far been helpless or unwilling to seriously challenge him on much of anything.

    Further what he says he intends to do can send shudders throughout the socioeconomic fabric of the nation. Just watch what happens to the stock market when he threatens this action or his intention to do this or that. We already have a crippled economy almost entirely because he refuses to do anything that will help repair it and threatens to veto anything that Congress passes that would repair it.

    We have more dictator than constitutional President at the helm right now. And he is doing and will likely continue to do serious harm to the country.
    The Dow ended down 189.77 on January 29, the day after the SOTU, with all other markets dropping accordingly. The losses were attributed to "general jitters about the overall global economy." Amazingly, today it has recovered from those jitters without any new news about the world economy, and recouped some of the losses, so I guess traders and investors are now willing to wait and see what happens next. Like the song says "what a difference a day made, twenty-four little hours"..."

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    Re: Are you going to warch the State of the Union?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    Oh yeah. He hasn't been able to abolish Christianity. He hasn't been able to establish an Islamic theocracy. He hasn't been able to obliterate Israel off of the face of the map. He hasn't been able to tax all of the rich people into poverty. He hasn't been able to establish a communist form of government. Something isn't adding up.

    When he is he going to destroy America like he has planned to do all along?



    Who needs congress if Obama can do it all on his own?



    That's fine. Isn't his goal the destruction of the American economy?



    I'll let that statement speak for itself. (Note: This is 2014 not 2008, 2009, 2010 or 2011)



    He sucks at inflicting harm if that is his goal. He has had plenty of time to f*** us over and hasn't been able to accomplish it yet.

    Hmmm. Hyperbole much? I suppose we could deal with all the straw men you built into that post, but I'll leave that to others. I would prefer to focus on what I actually posted if we are going to discuss something I saidl. Thanks so much for understanidng.
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